{"id":1004,"date":"2015-01-18T00:24:12","date_gmt":"2015-01-18T00:24:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesax.info\/makesandmodelslist\/?p=1004"},"modified":"2020-01-26T15:33:23","modified_gmt":"2020-01-26T15:33:23","slug":"yanagisawa-500-series","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/yanagisawa-500-series\/","title":{"rendered":"Yanagisawa 500 Series"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Vital Stats<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Introduced:<\/strong> Between 1978 and 1980.<br \/>\n<strong>Discontinued:<\/strong> appx. 1990\/92.<br \/>\n<strong>Available Pitches:<\/strong> Eb alto, Bb tenor.<br \/>\n<strong>Available Finishes:<\/strong> Lacquer, silver plate.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Brief Model Notes<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Ed Svoboda\u2019s original article calls the 500 series, \u201cYani\u2019s attempt to make a beginner\/intermediate horn.\u201d<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/forum.saxontheweb.net\/showthread.php?118092-500-Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Yanagisawa\u2019s official blurb<\/a> was: \u201cThis model has been developed as an ideal instrument for the beginner as well as the advanced player. The key positions are designed so that young players can play easily.\u201d All that\u2019s well and good, but a <a href=\"http:\/\/forum.saxontheweb.net\/showthread.php?118092-500-Series\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1989 Howarth (a UK dealer) catalog<\/a> lists the prices as 772 Pounds Sterling for the alto and 805 Pounds Sterling for the tenor. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.measuringworth.com\/ppoweruk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">That\u2019s about 1676 and 1747 Pounds Sterling in today\u2019s money.<\/a> Running it through <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xe.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the exchange calculator,<\/a> that\u2019s $2863 US and $2985 US, respectively. That\u2019s not a \u201cbeginner\/intermediate\u201d price, even if you include all the bazillions of taxes in the UK.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Doing a bit better reading of <a href=\"http:\/\/saxess.blog134.fc2.com\/blog-entry-49.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this article<\/a> \u2014 hey, I can\u2019t read Japanese, so I have to go by Google Translate \u2014 it looks like the A-50 and T-50 were cheaper in Japan. If I\u2019m reading it right, the A-50 was \u00a5149,000 vs. \u00a5235,000 for the A-80. Going through the same conversions as in the previous paragraph, that\u2019s a shade under $1900 and a shade under $3000, respectively. I still think $1900 is a bit high for a student\/beginner model, but the article goes on to say that you\u2019d get (translated and transliterated):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>While the horn is a beginner\/intermediate model, it had features beyond the Yamaha beginner\/intermediate models, such as an adjustable thumbrest (ed. thanks to kymarto for explaining \u201cSam\u201d), adjustable bell-to-body brace so you could adjust your tone, etc.; a much more durable amino alkyd lacquer (ed. looks like that\u2019s a <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20180528122040\/http:\/\/www.dic-global.com\/ap\/en\/products\/polyester\/thermosetting.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">baked-on lacquer<\/a>, vs. Yamaha\u2019s sprayed-on lacquer), and many more minor improvements.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20030421012745\/http:\/\/www.bandm.co.uk\/YanagInfo.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The article I generally use for Yani history<\/a> says that these horns were introduced in 1980 and I\u2019ve seen the above mentioned price-list was from 1989, so I\u2019d say the horns were around from 1980 to at least 1989, but probably until the introduction of the 900 Series in 1992. However, I can accept an introduction year as early as 1978, as all the articles agree that Yani started \u201cproudly\u201d engraving their name on the bell in 1978. I think it\u2019d be a bit logical for the 500 to be introduced at the same time.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">The typical way of telling a 500 from an 800 or 880 is to look for the stainless steel springs used on the horn rather than the blued springs used on the higher end models of this time period. (Source: Ed Svoboda\u2019s original Yanagisawa article.) Of course, a lot of 800s and 880s have \u201c800\u201d or \u201c880\u201d stamped on the body near the serial number. I also seriously doubt that there was a 500 Series Elimona model, so if you have <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/pix\/picture.php?\/2508\/category\/123\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the little \u201ccoin\u201d on the bell above the Yanagisawa name<\/a>, you don\u2019t have a 500.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Also note that the A-500 and T-500 are NOT the same as the Dorado 500s. Those are 4 Series horns. It\u2019s confusing. Also, the keywork of the 500 did change a bit over the life of the series, so your A-500 might not look <em>exactly<\/em> like someone else\u2019s. What also makes your life difficult is the fact that Yani decided not to mark the model name on these horns.<\/p>\n<p>New on Jan. 21, 2020:<br \/>\nI have gotten an awful lot of e-mails from folks trying to find out if they have a 6-Series, 500, or 800.&nbsp; That&#8217;s a really, really difficult question to answer when the horn has a serial number that puts the horn from about 1977 to 1982.&nbsp; Here are some notes:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>We know that almost definitely, that all 800s and 880s have <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/pix\/picture.php?\/4079\/category\/210\">that Yani &#8220;coin,&#8221;<\/a> mentioned above.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/woodwindforum.com\/forum\/index.php?threads\/yanagisawa-baris-b6-vs-b800-and-b880-and-elimona.26129\/\">The B6 baritone had some keywork upgrades around 1977<\/a>.<\/li>\n<li>Yanagisawa stencils from this time are generally 800s, but some could be 6s.&nbsp; Look for the double-arm on the low C key.&nbsp; You&#8217;ll only see that on the 800.<\/li>\n<li>There is really no good way of telling a 500 from a 6 series horn.&nbsp; The 6 may have a thumbrest that&#8217;s more reddish and it has those stainless steel springs.&nbsp; That&#8217;s hard to spot.&nbsp; It&#8217;s possible that all the 500s also have <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/pix\/picture.php?\/2354\/category\/93\">red enamel in the Yani logo<\/a> on the neck, but that can wear off.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I&#8217;ll eventually look into this a bit more.&nbsp; Yes, I also know that a couple horns in my gallery are in the wrong places.&nbsp; I&#8217;m working on that, too.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Serial Number Information<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Prior to 1981, some 500&nbsp;Series horns have a seven or eight-digit serial number. The form is essentially,<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">mm<\/span><span style=\"color: #00ff00;\">yy<\/span>nnnn<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Examples:<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">7<\/span><span style=\"color: #00ff00;\">79<\/span>1543 = <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">July<\/span>, 19<span style=\"color: #00ff00;\">79<\/span>.<br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">12<\/span><span style=\"color: #00ff00;\">79<\/span><\/span><\/span>1543<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&nbsp;<\/span>=<span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">&nbsp;December<\/span>, 19<span style=\"color: #00ff00;\">79<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Some 1980 serial numbers use this same format (e.g. 1801234, which is January 1980), but some switch to the post 1980 format, which doesn&#8217;t have the date &#8220;embedded&#8221; in the serial number.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">For post-1980 serial numbers, check out&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/woodwindforum.com\/forum\/index.php?threads\/serial-numbers.24354\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">my thread on the Woodwind Forum<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Prima Engraving<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">The horns engraved &#8220;Prima&#8221; were sold to the Japanese market through&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.prima-gakki.co.jp\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Prima Gakki<\/a>. Horns without the \u201cPrima\u201d engraving were sold through&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.zen-on.co.jp\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Zen-On.<\/a>&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/forum.saxontheweb.net\/showthread.php?66118-what-are-the-differences-between-s-6-prima-or-elimona\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">(Source.)<\/a><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Additional Pictures<\/h2>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/pix\/index.php?\/category\/12708\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">TheSax.Info<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxpics.com\/?v=gal&amp;c=3226\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Saxpics.com<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/s610.photobucket.com\/user\/aquamusix\/media\/00000000002\/dwe\/20140410_048_zps5eb8a77d.jpg.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Nice 500 alto with aftermarket Yani neck.<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/secure.flickr.com\/photos\/vincent_ie\/8645065608\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">1990 A-500 from Vincent le Ismail @ flickr.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1005,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"iawp_total_views":292,"footnotes":""},"categories":[230,231],"tags":[56,260,261,249,238,262,263,273,274,275,276,170,234],"class_list":["post-1004","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-japanese","category-yanagisawa","tag-1970s","tag-1980s","tag-1990s","tag-249","tag-70s","tag-80s","tag-90s","tag-a-500","tag-a500","tag-t-500","tag-t500","tag-yanagisawa","tag-yani","excerpt","zoom","full-without-featured","even","excerpt-0"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1004"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1004"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1004\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1688,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1004\/revisions\/1688"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1005"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1004"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1004"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1004"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}