{"id":245,"date":"2013-11-01T18:38:36","date_gmt":"2013-11-01T18:38:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesax.info\/makesandmodelslist\/?p=245"},"modified":"2013-11-01T19:08:47","modified_gmt":"2013-11-01T19:08:47","slug":"conn-new-wonder-series-ii-silver-family","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/conn-new-wonder-series-ii-silver-family\/","title":{"rendered":"Conn New Wonder &#8220;Series II&#8221; Silver Family"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Join me for a look at possibly the most popular make and model of saxophones made in the US, the Conn New Wonder. In particular, I want to look at the so-called &#8220;Series II&#8221; or &#8220;Chu Berry&#8221; version of the New Wonder, which was produced between approximately 1924 and 1930.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_135\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-135\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/s610.beta.photobucket.com\/user\/runzoff\/media\/sopranino1.jpg.html?sort=3&amp;o=4\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-135\" alt=\"20M Eb Sopranino (Eb Soprano).\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/sopranino3.jpg\" width=\"1024\" height=\"740\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-135\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">s\/n 154004 (1926) 20M Eb Sopranino (Eb Soprano). From <a href=\"http:\/\/s610.beta.photobucket.com\/user\/runzoff\/media\/sopranino3.jpg.html?sort=3&amp;o=3\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">runzoff @ Photobucket<\/span><\/a>.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Note the rather interesting looking G#\/C#\/B\/Bb cluster, which is significantly different from Conn horns in other pitches. Buescher&#8217;s solution to this really tiny keywork was to eliminate the G# key entirely. You&#8217;d use the C#\/B\/Bb. Also note that the keyed range is to altissimo Eb. Some modern Eb sopraninos only go this high to try to improve intonation.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_137\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-137\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Conn-new-wonder-4m-curved-Bb-soprano-e1359573214170.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Conn-new-wonder-4m-curved-Bb-soprano-e1359573214170.jpg\" alt=\"s\/n 206xxx (1928) 4M Curved Bb Soprano. From WorldWideSax.com via Saxpics.com.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"460\" class=\"size-full wp-image-137\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-137\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">s\/n 206xxx (1928) 4M Curved Bb Soprano.  From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldwidesax.com\">WorldWideSax.com<\/a> via Saxpics.com.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>An all-around beautiful horn. This is original silver plate: you can even see where it&#8217;s been polished in a few places. Again note the keyed range to altissimo Eb.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_144\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-144\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.getasax.com\/product_info.php?cPath=34&amp;products_id=249 \" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-144\" alt=\"conn new wonder s\/n 211871 (1929) 18M Bb Soprano\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/ConnSop211xxx-09.jpg\" width=\"1024\" height=\"428\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-144\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">s\/n 211871 (1929) 18M Bb Soprano. From <a href=\"http:\/\/getasax.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">GetASax.com.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I strongly encourage you to look at the full gallery of this horn: it has an almost flawless finish, even before it was restored. (Again note the G#\/C#\/B\/Bb cluster.)<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_150\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-150\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxophone.org\/museum\/saxophones\/specimen\/108\/viewAll\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-150\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder s\/n 159948 (1926) 2M C Soprano.  From Saxophone.org.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/779_573_430.jpg\" width=\"1024\" height=\"430\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-150\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">s\/n 159948 (1926) 2M C Soprano. From <a href=\"http:\/\/saxophone.org\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Saxophone.org.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I knew that C sopranos were uncommon, but it took awhile for me to find a horn in the &#8220;Chu Berry&#8221; serial number range. I found a lot more earlier horns &#8212; and ones in astounding shape.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_155\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-155\" style=\"width: 1411px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/connfmezzo113011a5.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-155\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder 24M F Mezzo-Soprano s\/n 213606 (1928) From quinntheeskimo.2 @ eBay\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/connfmezzo113011a5.jpg\" width=\"1411\" height=\"941\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-155\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">24M F Mezzo-Soprano s\/n 213606 (1928). From <a href=\"http:\/\/myworld.ebay.com\/quinntheeskimo.2\/?_trksid=p4340.l2559\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">quinntheeskimo.2 @ eBay.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>There are a lot of reasons why I like this horn: Quinn takes a lot of very high resolution pics from a lot of angles &#8212; including pics of the neck, this is a very, very well preserved horn and there&#8217;s an original case.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/gallery3\/index.php\/Conn\/New-Wonder\/22464x\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder 22M Conn-O-Sax (F Alto) s\/n 22464x (1930). From quinntheeskimo.2 @ eBay.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/gallery3\/var\/albums\/Conn\/New-Wonder\/22464x\/ConnOSax100707a25.jpg?m=1316317213\" width=\"1024\" height=\"614\" \/><\/a><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">22M Conn-O-Sax (F Alto) s\/n 22464x (1930). From <a href=\"http:\/\/myworld.ebay.com\/quinntheeskimo.2\/?_trksid=p4340.l2559\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">quinntheeskimo.2 @ eBay.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Quinn actually has (had) an even nicer horn than this, too. There are still a couple hundred of these horns out there and value is extremely variable: I&#8217;ve seen horns in poorer condition than this fetch $30,000.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_162\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-162\" style=\"width: 1200px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxquest.com\/popPhotoViewer.asp?ProdCode=177918ConnChuSilvAlt&amp;AtImage=18&amp;productname=Beautifully+Restored+ORIGINAL+CG+Conn+Chu+Berry+Alto+Sax+in+Silver+Plate+%23+177918&amp;PhotoNum=21&amp;view=all\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-162\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder 6M Eb Alto s\/n 177918 (1927). From Saxquest.com.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/02\/177918ConnChuSilvAlt2.jpg\" width=\"1200\" height=\"900\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-162\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">6M Eb Alto s\/n 177918 (1927). From <a href=\"http:\/\/saxquest.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Saxquest.com.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>It&#8217;s getting very hard to find these horns in original plating. Some of the replated horns I&#8217;ve seen, though, are extremely nice. I&#8217;ll probably do a post on those at some point.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_166\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-166\" style=\"width: 1280px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/gallery3\/index.php\/Conn\/New-Wonder\/8M-C-Melody-Tenor-s-n-159000-1926\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-166\" alt=\"8M C Melody Tenor, s\/n 159xxx (1926). From deansanfordmusic @ eBay.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/616751443_o.jpg\" width=\"1280\" height=\"963\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-166\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">8M C Melody Tenor. s\/n 159xxx (1926). From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/gallery3\/index.php\/Conn\/New-Wonder\/8M-C-Melody-Tenor-s-n-159000-1926\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">deansanfordmusic @ eBay<\/span><\/a>, via TheSax.Info.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>One of the fun things about this gallery is that there&#8217;s a picture that shows <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/gallery3\/index.php\/Conn\/New-Wonder\/8M-C-Melody-Tenor-s-n-159000-1926\/616751312_o\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">a cork in the bell.<\/span><\/a>. No, that&#8217;s not standard equipment, but you could recommend it: tossing a cork in the bell &#8212; or a PLASTIC mouthpiece cap &#8212; &#8220;breaks up&#8221; the airflow and can make the lower notes easier to play. Selmer even experimented with &#8220;airflow diverters&#8221; in the bow on some Mark VIs.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_168\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-168\" style=\"width: 1600px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.getasax.com\/product_info.php?cPath=34&amp;products_id=308\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-168\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder 10M Bb Tenor, s\/n 235278 (1930). From GetASax.com.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/DSC_0092.jpg\" width=\"1600\" height=\"1071\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-168\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">10M Bb Tenor, s\/n 235278 (1930). From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.getasax.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">GetASax.com.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>This horn is right on the cusp of the &#8220;Transitional&#8221; era, which starts around s\/n 237xxx. However, the thing that <em>ended<\/em> the transitional era was the Bb tenor switching to single-side bell keys around s\/n 263xxx (1935). Besides, this is too nice of a horn to quibble.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_176\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-176\" style=\"width: 1519px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/CONBARI11-e1359953461785.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-176\" alt=\"12M Eb Baritone, s\/n 239120 (1930).  From WorldWideSax.com.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/CONBARI11-e1359953461785.jpg\" width=\"1519\" height=\"794\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-176\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">12M Eb Baritone, s\/n 239120 (1930). From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.getasax.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">WorldWideSax.com.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I&#8217;m cheating, here. I have a good reason: the baritone switched to single-side bell keys around s\/n 220,xxx and that&#8217;s very close to the &#8220;Transitional&#8221; horns. I could not find a 12M in this tiny serial number range with the New Wonder-style engraving that had original finish.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_178\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-178\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxpics.com\/the_gallery\/conn\/new_wonder\/2\/bass\/silver\/246xxx-vs\/\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-178\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder 14M Bb Bass, s\/n 246xxx (1932)\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/conn246bs.jpg\" width=\"1024\" height=\"337\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-178\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Conn 14M Bb Bass, s\/n 246xxx (1932). From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vintagesax.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">VintageSax.com<\/span><\/a> via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxpics.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Saxpics.com.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>I&#8217;m again cheating a bit, but just with the serial number range. At approximately s\/n 220,xxx, the bass got a redesign: a new neck and single-side bell keys. Note that the keyed range is from low Bb to altissimo Eb.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<figure id=\"attachment_181\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-181\" style=\"width: 1024px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxpics.com\/?v=gal&amp;a=657\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-181\" alt=\"Conn New Wonder 16V Eb Contrabass Sarrusophone, s\/n 278 (1921?).  From saxpics.com.\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thesax.info\/photoblog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/51100000.jpg\" width=\"1024\" height=\"480\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-181\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">16V Eb Contrabass Sarrusophone, s\/n 278 (1921?). From <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxpics.com\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">saxpics.com.<\/span><\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The 16V Eb contrabass Sarrusophone was Conn&#8217;s Eb contrabass sax equivalent. The first Conn 16V was made in 1917 and there were about 325 made. They were available until at least WWII. I&#8217;m again cheating a bit with the date, but the only two things to ever change on the 16V were the engraving and the addition of pearl keytouches.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":251,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"iawp_total_views":8,"footnotes":""},"categories":[64],"tags":[67,68,69,71,72,70,73,65,66,38,33,35],"class_list":["post-245","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-conn-new-wonder-series-ii-silver-family","tag-10m","tag-12m","tag-14m","tag-16m","tag-18m","tag-1920s","tag-20m","tag-2m","tag-4m","tag-6m","tag-conn-2","tag-new-wonder","excerpt","zoom","full-without-featured","even","excerpt-0"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/245"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=245"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/245\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":247,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/245\/revisions\/247"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/251"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=245"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=245"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/Pete\/makesandmodelslist\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=245"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}