{"id":11850,"date":"2009-08-11T11:05:22","date_gmt":"2009-08-11T19:05:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=11850"},"modified":"2025-08-09T11:40:28","modified_gmt":"2025-08-09T18:40:28","slug":"hawk-bass-sax-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/hawk-bass-sax-part-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Hawk Bass Sax Part II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, I wrote about the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=11700\" target=\"_self\">Hawk bass saxophone<\/a> I happened to stumble across while doing my regular eBay search. I decided to see if I could find out more about this brand because I was somewhat intrigued. Well, I found more than I counted on: It was a most educational trip through some rather obscure Internet pages.<\/p>\n<p>It seems that the Hawk bass saxophone is the creation of none other than the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jinyinprowoodwind-brass.com\/index.html\" target=\"_blank\">Pro Woodwind &amp; Brass Division of the JINYIN Group<\/a>. (JINYIN is a name we&#8217;ve heard before as\u00a0the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=9667\" target=\"_self\">brand name of an American-designed, Asian-built bass sax<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>According to\u00a0JINYIN&#8217;s website,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The JINYIN Pro Woodwind Division is now manufacturing the Kenny G and Rheuben Allen line of saxophones.<\/p>\n<p>These instruments are made in the New Kenny G \/ Rheuben Allen workshop located in the JINYIN main factory.<\/p>\n<p>All work is supervised by Rheuben Allen and inspected by Mr. Allen before being shipped.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Hawk bass saxophone is being described as &#8220;new&#8221; by JINYIN.<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-11855\" href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/hawk-bass-sax-part-ii\/in-case-2-2\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"11855\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/hawk-bass-sax-part-ii\/in-case-2-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/In-Case-2.jpg?fit=500%2C316&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,316\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"In Case 2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/In-Case-2.jpg?fit=500%2C316&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11855\" title=\"In Case 2\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/In-Case-2.jpg?resize=500%2C316\" alt=\"In Case 2\" width=\"500\" height=\"316\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/In-Case-2.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/In-Case-2.jpg?resize=300%2C189&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>Source: jinyinprowoodwind-brass.com<\/h6>\n<p>JINYIN goes on to say:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The &#8220;Hawk&#8221; features the bore of the vintage great bass saxophones.<\/p>\n<p>Articulated G#<\/p>\n<p>Added closing bar from the F to the F1 keys to help keep the lower register stable.<\/p>\n<p>Contour case with wheels and a compartment for Mouthpiece and Accessories.<\/p>\n<p>2 Necks with Neck bag that hold both necks<\/p>\n<p>Double brace and springs on the low C key<\/p>\n<p>Double springs on the low Eb key<\/p>\n<p>The Low C and Eb keys have two springs<\/p>\n<p>(One on each end of the key) to help insure quick response of these two heavy keys.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The Hawk is available in an antique finish by special order. (I think this is an interesting finish option.)<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-11858\" href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/hawk-bass-sax-part-ii\/antique-finish\/\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"11858\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/hawk-bass-sax-part-ii\/antique-finish\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/Antique-Finish.jpg?fit=350%2C870&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"350,870\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Antique Finish\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/Antique-Finish.jpg?fit=350%2C870&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11858\" title=\"Antique Finish\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/08\/Antique-Finish.jpg?resize=350%2C870\" alt=\"Antique Finish\" width=\"350\" height=\"870\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>Source: jinyinprowoodwind-brass.com\/hawk_bass<\/h6>\n<p>I&#8217;ve included a slide show of the photos of the Hawk bass saxophone. Enjoy&#8230;<\/p>\nngg_shortcode_0_placeholder\n<h6>Source: jinyinprowoodwind-brass.com\/hawk_bass<\/h6>\n<p>You will notice that a number of these photos have appeared in my <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?series=232\">series on American-designed,\u00a0Asian-made bass saxophones<\/a> before. Most notably, the double necks and their pouch are the same photo used in the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=4739\" target=\"_self\">ads for the Orpheo bass<\/a>. The rest of the Orpheo photos are the same as well. Therefore,\u00a0it is safe to assume that Orpheo and Hawk are the same horn.<\/p>\n<p>At this point I am speculating that the older <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=2428\" target=\"_self\">Orpheo<\/a> bass, the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=9667\">JINYIN<\/a>, and the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=7287\" target=\"_self\">DLM <\/a>are based on an older design by the JINYIN company. However, this is purely speculation.<\/p>\n<p>In any event, JINYIN seems to be one of the actual manufactures of bass saxophones. Another one that I&#8217;ve come across is <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=9225\" target=\"_self\">Canex<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s just a shame that these instruments are not available to try anywhere. Mail order appears to be the only way to play-test these new bass saxophones. I just would rather not have to buy 2 or 3 bass saxophones and return them, in order to see what they are like.<\/p>\n<p>After writing as much I have about these horns, I must admit, I would love to try them out. It would be most interesting to see if I could be swayed to give up my vintage Buescher, for a new bass sax of either American or French-inspired design&#8230; Even if it is Asian-built.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width:500px;margin:0px auto;text-align:left;border:0px solid #25e925;padding:10px;\">\n<div style=\"float:right;width:285px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:10px;padding-bottom:10px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Georgia;font-size: 28px;line-height:24px; color:#AAFF66; text-align: right;\">    &#8230;this is just <span style=\"color:#fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color:#66aaff\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color:#66aaff\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color:#fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color:#aaff66\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color:#fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/DIV><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday, I wrote about the Hawk bass saxophone I happened to stumble across while doing my regular eBay search. 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