{"id":21797,"date":"2010-10-17T10:13:14","date_gmt":"2010-10-17T17:13:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=21797"},"modified":"2011-05-08T08:42:51","modified_gmt":"2011-05-08T15:42:51","slug":"particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/","title":{"rendered":"Particularly Sad Looking Hohner President Tenor For Auction On eBay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This morning I found this rather\u00a0rough looking specimen of a <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ws\/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=260678977831&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT\" target=\"_blank\">Hohner President up for auction on eBay<\/a>. About the only thing that is remarkable about this sax\u2014other than the damage it has sustained\u2014is the fact that it is the first lacquer model that I&#8217;ve seen. Until now I&#8217;ve seen either 2 tone or silver plated Presidents.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21798\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/front-view-with-neck-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?fit=271%2C500&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"271,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Front View With Neck\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?fit=271%2C500&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21798\" title=\"Front View With Neck\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?resize=271%2C500\" alt=\"\" width=\"271\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?w=271&amp;ssl=1 271w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?resize=162%2C300&amp;ssl=1 162w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 271px) 100vw, 271px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>The seller is not a sax player, therefore apparently can&#8217;t shed any light onto this horn&#8217;s background, and can only tell us this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I know nothing about a sax, just picked this up at an estate sale. Took lot of pictures. I do know it needs some repairs and to be refurbished but overall horn looks good. No mouthpiece. Horn reads: Hohner President. On back has Hohner trademark and numbers 6079. At the top reads: GES. &#8211; GESCH.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Alrighty then. Let&#8217;s take a look at what <em>good<\/em> means to this seller.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately the photos he\/she has included are quite small, and not particularly clear, so details are hard to make out. However, there are certain details that are very easy to see.<\/p>\n<p>According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxpics.com\/Keilwerth\/misc_pics\/hohner\/serials-jim_warner\/Hohner%20Saxophone%20SN.htm\" target=\"_blank\">serial number chart on SaxPics<\/a>, this tenor\u2014serial # 6079\u2014is circa 1957.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Serial-No.-6079-Hohner-Trademark.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21799\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/serial-no-6079-hohner-trademark\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Serial-No.-6079-Hohner-Trademark.jpg?fit=500%2C374&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,374\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Serial No. 6079 &amp;#038; Hohner Trademark\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Serial-No.-6079-Hohner-Trademark.jpg?fit=500%2C374&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21799\" title=\"Serial No. 6079 &amp; Hohner Trademark\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Serial-No.-6079-Hohner-Trademark.jpg?resize=500%2C374\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Serial-No.-6079-Hohner-Trademark.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Serial-No.-6079-Hohner-Trademark.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Left-Hand-Keys.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21800\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/left-hand-keys-10\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Left-Hand-Keys.jpg?fit=500%2C260&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,260\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Left Hand Keys\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Left-Hand-Keys.jpg?fit=500%2C260&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21800\" title=\"Left Hand Keys\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Left-Hand-Keys.jpg?resize=500%2C260\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Left-Hand-Keys.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Left-Hand-Keys.jpg?resize=300%2C156&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>It appears to me like the D# trill key has been bent up. It normally is much closer to the body tube like in this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/president-tenor-7678-from-ebay\/rolled-tone-holes-d-trill-key.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">photo of tenor 7678<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Just to be sure it wasn&#8217;t an optical illusion due to the angle of the photo, I looked at my own tenor, and stood at the same angle that this photo was taken at. The end of the D# trill key did not look like it was bent upward on my sax. This horn has a bent key.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Right-Hand-Keys.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21801\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/right-hand-keys-4\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Right-Hand-Keys.jpg?fit=500%2C314&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,314\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Right Hand Keys\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Right-Hand-Keys.jpg?fit=500%2C314&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21801\" title=\"Right Hand Keys\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Right-Hand-Keys.jpg?resize=500%2C314\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"314\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Right-Hand-Keys.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Right-Hand-Keys.jpg?resize=300%2C188&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21802\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/bell-engraving-35\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?fit=500%2C374&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,374\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Bell Engraving\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?fit=500%2C374&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21802\" title=\"Bell Engraving\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=500%2C374\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"374\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=300%2C224&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>In this\u00a0photo you can see not only\u00a0is one of the left pinkie cluster keys\u2014it&#8217;s the C# key\u2014not attached, but there is some significant neck damage as well.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Back-Of-Horn-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21803\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/neck-back-of-horn-detached-roller-key\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Back-Of-Horn-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?fit=500%2C327&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,327\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Neck; Back Of Horn &amp;#038; Detached Roller Key\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Back-Of-Horn-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?fit=500%2C327&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21803\" title=\"Neck; Back Of Horn &amp; Detached Roller Key\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Back-Of-Horn-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?resize=500%2C327\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"327\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Back-Of-Horn-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Back-Of-Horn-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?resize=300%2C196&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>The upper octave key is broken off midway to the octave key vent. Also, it appears that there is a piece missing at the tenon. It was\u00a0most likely\u00a0removed.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21804\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/neck-detached-roller-key\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?fit=500%2C320&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,320\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Neck &amp;#038; Detached Roller Key\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?fit=500%2C320&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21804\" title=\"Neck &amp; Detached Roller Key\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?resize=500%2C320\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Neck-Detached-Roller-Key.jpg?resize=300%2C192&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>Hohner President saxophones had true double socket necks. And as such, their necks fit into the double socket of the body tube, as illustrated in this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/hohner-prez-tenor-new-pics\/double-socket-receiver.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">photo of my tenor 104XX<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>In this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/president-tenor-7678-from-ebay\/neck-right-side.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">photo of tenor 7678&#8217;s neck<\/a>, you can see what an original Hohner neck looks like. There\u00a0is no sleeve on the President&#8217;s tenon, whereas on this eBay horn&#8217;s neck there is evidence that a sleeve was removed.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>This is clearly not\u00a0the original neck\u2014and let&#8217;s not forget its octave key is broken off.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Damaged-Cuff-On-Double-Socket-Neck.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"21805\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2010\/particularly-sad-looking-hohner-president-tenor-for-auction-on-ebay\/damaged-cuff-on-double-socket-neck\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Damaged-Cuff-On-Double-Socket-Neck.jpg?fit=490%2C500&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"490,500\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Damaged Cuff On Double Socket Neck\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Damaged-Cuff-On-Double-Socket-Neck.jpg?fit=490%2C500&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-21805\" title=\"Damaged Cuff On Double Socket Neck\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Damaged-Cuff-On-Double-Socket-Neck.jpg?resize=490%2C500\" alt=\"\" width=\"490\" height=\"500\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Damaged-Cuff-On-Double-Socket-Neck.jpg?w=490&amp;ssl=1 490w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Damaged-Cuff-On-Double-Socket-Neck.jpg?resize=294%2C300&amp;ssl=1 294w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 490px) 100vw, 490px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>The auction for this Hohner President tenor, which needs the help of a very skilled repair tech\u2014and perhaps a new neck\u2014ends on October 19. At the time of writing there was 1 bid of $24.99 on this sax.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;d like to find out more about Hohner saxophones, check out\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/hohner-president\" target=\"_blank\">my page about the brand<\/a> on the main portion of my site. There you&#8217;ll also find a link\u00a0to my\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/hohner-president\/hohner-gallery\" target=\"_blank\">Hohner Gallery<\/a>.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width:500px;margin:0px auto;text-align:left;border:0px solid #25e925;padding:10px;\">\n<div style=\"float:right;width:285px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:10px;padding-bottom:10px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Georgia;font-size: 28px;line-height:24px; color:#AAFF66; text-align: right;\">    &#8230;this is just <span style=\"color:#fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color:#66aaff\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color:#66aaff\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color:#fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color:#aaff66\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color:#fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/DIV><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This morning I found this rather\u00a0rough looking specimen of a Hohner President up for auction on eBay. 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