{"id":23417,"date":"2011-01-23T10:56:24","date_gmt":"2011-01-23T18:56:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=23417"},"modified":"2011-04-13T22:34:54","modified_gmt":"2011-04-14T05:34:54","slug":"an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/","title":{"rendered":"An SML Alto Made By D\u00f6rfler &#038; J\u00f6rka"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yes, you read that right. The German saxophone manufacturer\u2014renowned for making copies of J. Keilwerth saxophones\u2014stencilled saxophones for SML. As a matter of fact, there is a <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ws\/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=220728263867&amp;fromMakeTrack=true&amp;ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en\" target=\"_blank\">D&amp;J-stencilled SML alto on eBay<\/a> at the moment.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"23419\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/bell-engraving-41\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,375\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Bell Engraving\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23419\" title=\"Bell Engraving\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=500%2C375\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>Now before you go thinking that perhaps someone buffed off the original name, and\u00a0re-engraved the SML\u00a0name on this D&amp;J horn, here&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/4images\/categories.php?cat_id=648\" target=\"_blank\">another SML alto made by D&amp;J <\/a>that appeared on Detroit&#8217;s Craig&#8217;s List last year.<\/p>\n<p>The seller of the sax currently on eBay describes the\u00a0horn\u00a0like this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Up for sale is a MARIGAUX SML Paris Alto saxophone. The sax is in NEAR MINT condition. About 99% or more of beautiful original lacquer is still present. It does have rolled tone holes. Body and neck have the same series number of 85xx. This sax was made probably in the 40s-50s or 60s. Pads look old, so buyer should make a call on either adjusting or replacing them. All keys move smoothly &amp; freely .There is NO dent, but there are minor scratches &amp; tiny dings as you expect from an old horn. I acquired this sax from a retired pro who used this sax as a backup horn for his SBA. Yet, since then it\u2019s been sitting in my collection. Also, this sax is a puzzle for me since it was made in GERMANY. If you\u2019re a German sax collector, you might know more about it. As for me, I hardly can find any info about this rare sax, and it doesn\u2019t look like my Gold Medal SML . This sax is very well built and definitely NOT a cheap one. It should be a nice vintage horn for someone who is willing to bring it back as a performer again. Sax was made to perform, so I\u2019m rather Not keeping it in my collection any longer. So, This sax definitely needs a new owner who can give it love.<\/p>\n<p>This sax comes with a non original case and a mouthpiece.<\/p>\n<p>1\/23\/11<\/p>\n<p>Thanks for info from few knowlegeable ebayers who pointed out that this sax has Keilwerth as its parent company. I compared it to my Superba I and found that the shape of posts, tonehole positions &amp; keywork appear very similar. So, It might indeed a Keilwerth or D&amp;J sax.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In case you have any doubts about this SML&#8217;s pedigree, I&#8217;ll give you some examples of other D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka-made horns so that you can compare them.<\/p>\n<p>Check out this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/rene-dumont-from-doctorsax-biz\/right-side-upper-portion.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Ren\u00e9 Dumont 14462<\/a>. Among the other similarities, on the SML you can make out D&amp;J&#8217;s round thumb screw that fastens the neck.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Upper-Porition-Right-Side.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"23420\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/upper-porition-right-side\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Upper-Porition-Right-Side.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,375\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Upper Porition Right Side\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Upper-Porition-Right-Side.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23420\" title=\"Upper Porition Right Side\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Upper-Porition-Right-Side.jpg?resize=500%2C375\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Upper-Porition-Right-Side.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Upper-Porition-Right-Side.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>Here you can see that the SML is identical to this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/voss-alto-belonging-to-michael-bloch\/left-side.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Voss 163XX<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Lower-Portion-Right-Side1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"23421\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/lower-portion-right-side-17\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Lower-Portion-Right-Side1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,375\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Lower Portion Right Side\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Lower-Portion-Right-Side1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23421\" title=\"Lower Portion Right Side\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Lower-Portion-Right-Side1.jpg?resize=500%2C375\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Lower-Portion-Right-Side1.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Lower-Portion-Right-Side1.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>This is the bow guard of <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/rene-dumont-alto-on-uk-ebay-site\/bow-guard.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Ren\u00e9 Dumont 14231<\/a>. Note the shape of the decorative holes in the key guards.\u00a0They are\u00a0the same as in the SML.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bow-Guard.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"23422\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/bow-guard-5\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bow-Guard.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,375\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Bow Guard\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bow-Guard.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23422\" title=\"Bow Guard\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bow-Guard.jpg?resize=500%2C375\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bow-Guard.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bow-Guard.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>Here is the left side of an <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/artist-300-alto-from-ebay-april-2010\/left-side.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Artist #300, serial # 11174<\/a>. Do you see a difference? I don&#8217;t see a difference. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>Note the shape of the octave lever and left thumb rest on this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/roxy-alto-on-ebay-oct-09\/left-thumb-rest-octave-lever-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Roxy 11036<\/a>. This is classic D&amp;J.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Left-Side1.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"23423\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/left-side-51\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Left-Side1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,375\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Left Side\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Left-Side1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23423\" title=\"Left Side\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Left-Side1.jpg?resize=500%2C375\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Left-Side1.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Left-Side1.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>And you&#8217;ll see the left pinkie cluster is the same on the SML as it is on this <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/senator-alto-from-ebay-september-2010\/bell.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Senator 11255<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"23424\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/an-sml-alto-made-by-dorfler-jorka\/bell-21\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"500,375\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Bell\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-23424\" title=\"Bell\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell.jpg?resize=500%2C375\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"375\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell.jpg?w=500&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/01\/Bell.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>This D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka-made SML alto indeed appears to be in very nice condition.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;d like to read more about D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophones, check out\u00a0the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/dorfler-jorka\" target=\"_blank\">D&amp;J page on the main portion of my site<\/a>. There you&#8217;ll find the company&#8217;s history, and lots of pictures that compare and contrast the horns to J. Keilwerth saxophones of similar vintage.<\/p>\n<p>The auction for this D&amp;J-stencilled SML alto runs until February 20. The Buy It Now price of the sax is $600.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width:500px;margin:0px auto;text-align:left;border:0px solid #25e925;padding:10px;\">\n<div style=\"float:right;width:285px;margin-top:10px;margin-bottom:10px;margin-left:10px;padding-bottom:10px;font-family:Arial, Helvetica, Georgia;font-size: 28px;line-height:24px; color:#AAFF66; text-align: right;\">    &#8230;this is just <span style=\"color:#fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color:#66aaff\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color:#66aaff\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color:#fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color:#aaff66\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color:#fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span>\n<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear:both;\"><\/div>\n<p><\/DIV><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Yes, you read that right. The German saxophone manufacturer\u2014renowned for making copies of J. Keilwerth saxophones\u2014stencilled saxophones for SML. As a matter of fact, there &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[220],"tags":[625,665,660,218,198,643,31],"class_list":["post-23417","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dorfler-jorka","tag-alto-saxophone","tag-dorfler-jorka","tag-ebay","tag-stencil-horn","tag-stencil-saxophone","tag-vintage-horns","tag-vintage-sax"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.5 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Yes, you read that right. The German saxophone manufacturer\u2014renowned for making copies of J. Keilwerth saxophones\u2014stencilled saxophones for SML. 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