{"id":24413,"date":"2011-03-24T09:25:52","date_gmt":"2011-03-24T16:25:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=24413"},"modified":"2024-05-17T09:43:56","modified_gmt":"2024-05-17T16:43:56","slug":"hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/","title":{"rendered":"Hopf: A D\u00f6rfler &#038; J\u00f6rka Stencil Name That We Haven&#8217;t Seen Before Now"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This morning I happened to&nbsp;come across&nbsp;yet another D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka stencil name that hadn&#8217;t been attributed to them before. A seller from the UK currently has <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ws\/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=320673482341&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a tenor saxophone listed which is engraved<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Original<br \/>\nHopf<br \/>\nT<br \/>\nClassic<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"24414\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/right-side-with-case\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?fit=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Right Side With Case\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24414 size-full\" title=\"Right Side With Case\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?resize=800%2C600&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-With-Case.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>No amount of Googling could get me any definitive information on what company named Hopf, might have ordered stencil saxophones from D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka. There is a Hopf guitar company in Germany that has been&nbsp;a family run business for 300 years. They&nbsp;currently also sell all the various voices of recorders, so&nbsp;perhaps in the 1950s the company had a brief foray into saxophones?<\/p>\n<p>In any event, this silver plated D&amp;J-made sax appears to be in decent condition, and comes with a relatively new contoured case\u2014which is much more protective than the original one ever was. (Trust me. I speak from experience here.)<\/p>\n<p>This is what the&nbsp;seller writes about this vintage Keilwerth, clone horn:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>1950&#8217;S VINTAGE TENOR SAX. ORIGINAL SILVER LACQUER.<\/p>\n<p>NAMED AS A HOPF CLASSIC, SERIAL NO. 8747, MADE IN GERMANY.<\/p>\n<p>RECENTLY OVERHAULED AT WOODWIND EXCHANGE, BRADFORD.<\/p>\n<p>THOUGHT TO BE A DORFLER &amp; JORKA DESIGN BASED ON THE KEILWERTH NEW KING.<\/p>\n<p>NO DENTS BUT FEW SLIGHT PENCIL POINT DINGS.<\/p>\n<p>BLOWS IN THAT DARK, SOLID KEILWERTH TONE.<\/p>\n<p>COMES WITH HARNESS, HR MPC, REEDS, SHAPED CASE AND STAND<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In this photo you can see the D&amp;J thumb screw used to hold the neck in the socket. This automatically tells&nbsp;us with 95% certainty what we&#8217;re looking at.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"24415\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/neck-rigth-side-in-socket\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?fit=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Neck Rigth Side In Socket\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24415 size-full\" title=\"Neck Rigth Side In Socket\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?resize=800%2C600&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Neck-Rigth-Side-In-Socket.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>Here you can see the large mother of pearl buttons that decorate the key guards. That together with the key guard and key shapes, add another 2% to our total of surety that this is indeed a D&amp;J horn.<\/p>\n<p>Compare the photo below&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/de-villiers-tenor-saxophone\/lower-portion-right-side.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to that of my De Villiers<\/a>. Other than mine being a lacquer horn, there are virtually no differences. (The connecting brace between the low B and Bb keys is the only visible difference.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"24416\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/right-side-lower-portion-14\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?fit=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Right Side Lower Portion\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24416 size-full\" title=\"Right Side Lower Portion\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?resize=800%2C600&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>The metal clothes guard and the shape of the right thumb hook adds yet another 2% to our total, so we&#8217;re now at 99% certainty that this is a D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophone. Here is this same section <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/de-villiers-tenor-saxophone\/lower-portion-left-side.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on my D&amp;J-made De Villiers<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Although it&#8217;s a little tough to make out in this photo, the left thumb rest is mother of pearl, and the octave lever is tear dropped shaped. <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/gallery\/de-villiers-tenor-saxophone\/left-thumb-rest-octave-le.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">This is what it looks like<\/a>. That&#8217;s our last percent. We can now say with 100% certainty that this is indeed a D&amp;J horn.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"24417\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/left-side-lower-portion-7\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?fit=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Left Side Lower Portion\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24417 size-full\" title=\"Left Side Lower Portion\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?resize=800%2C600&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Left-Side-Lower-Portion1.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"24418\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/right-side-68\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?fit=600%2C800&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"600,800\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Right Side\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?fit=500%2C666&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24418 size-full\" title=\"Right Side\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?resize=600%2C800&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?w=600&amp;ssl=1 600w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Right-Side3.jpg?resize=500%2C666&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"24419\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/hopf-a-dorfler-jorka-stencil-name-that-we-havent-seen-before-now\/bell-engraving-44\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?fit=800%2C600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,600\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Bell Engraving\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-24419 size-full\" title=\"Bell Engraving\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=800%2C600&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/Bell-Engraving1.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>If you are interested in reading more about D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophones, and their long, and rather very complicated history with J. Keilwerth, check out <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/dorfler-jorka\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the D&amp;J page on the main portion of my site.<\/a> I just updated the page 2 days ago,&nbsp;and there are now more comparative photos there, as well as&nbsp;some new information.<\/p>\n<p>The auction for this particular D&amp;J tenor runs until March 26. Bids are to start at \u00a3550.00\u2014which eBay estimates to be $893.48 US. At the time of writing no one had bid on this vintage Hopf tenor yet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This morning I happened to&nbsp;come across&nbsp;yet another D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka stencil name that hadn&#8217;t been attributed to them before. A seller from the UK currently &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[220],"tags":[665,660,151,644,218,198,643,31],"class_list":["post-24413","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dorfler-jorka","tag-dorfler-jorka","tag-ebay","tag-german-saxophones","tag-photos","tag-stencil-horn","tag-stencil-saxophone","tag-vintage-horns","tag-vintage-sax"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.5 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"This morning I happened to come across yet another D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka stencil name that hadn&#039;t been attributed to them before. 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