{"id":26468,"date":"2011-07-17T10:08:17","date_gmt":"2011-07-17T17:08:17","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=26468"},"modified":"2024-05-25T17:20:37","modified_gmt":"2024-05-26T00:20:37","slug":"dorfler-jorka-stencilled-rene-dumont-tenor-up-for-auction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/dorfler-jorka-stencilled-rene-dumont-tenor-up-for-auction\/","title":{"rendered":"D\u00f6rfler &#038; J\u00f6rka-Stencilled Ren\u00e9 Dumont Tenor Up For Auction"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Although I&#8217;ve noted so many of these D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophones over the past 18 or so months\u2014under so many different stencil names\u2014that they have been proven to be anything but rare, this <a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ws\/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=320728347027&amp;ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ren\u00e9 Dumont tenor on eBay currently<\/a> is&nbsp;interesting for a couple of reasons.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26469\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/dorfler-jorka-stencilled-rene-dumont-tenor-up-for-auction\/in-case-with-neck-mouthpiece\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?fit=1280%2C866&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,866\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"In Case With Neck &amp;#038; Mouthpiece\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?fit=500%2C338&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-26469 size-full\" title=\"In Case With Neck &amp; Mouthpiece\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?resize=1174%2C794&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"1174\" height=\"794\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?resize=300%2C202&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/In-Case-With-Neck-Mouthpiece.jpg?resize=500%2C338&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: jbstreasures35<\/h6>\n<p>Besides the fact that it doesn&#8217;t look like it&#8217;s gone through hell as a&nbsp;student band&nbsp;instrument, it, unlike most other D&amp;J horns I&#8217;ve seen, still has its original mouthpiece.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26470\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/dorfler-jorka-stencilled-rene-dumont-tenor-up-for-auction\/rene-dumont-mouthpiece\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?fit=1280%2C960&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,960\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Rene Dumont Mouthpiece\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-26470 size-full\" title=\"Rene Dumont Mouthpiece\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?resize=1174%2C881&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"1174\" height=\"881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Rene-Dumont-Mouthpiece.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: jbstreasures35<\/h6>\n<p>Unfortunately, most of the D&amp;J horns being resold today no longer&nbsp;have their original mouthpieces. Therefore it is unclear what kind of mouthpiece D&amp;J routinely supplied with their horns. However, this Ren\u00e9 Dumont mouthpiece is most likely the one that came with this horn.<\/p>\n<p>It should be noted that Ren\u00e9 Dumont didn&#8217;t only use D&amp;J as a source for their horns\u2014although these vintage, German, Keilwerth clone horns were by far and away the most common. The French, saxophone-only manufacturer Pierret, was also a supplier for at least some of <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/pix\/index.php?\/category\/13736\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ren\u00e9 Dumont&#8217;s saxophones<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Presumably Ren\u00e9 Dumont wanted consistency across its various brands of stencil horns when it came to mouthpieces, hence the Ren\u00e9 Dumont mouthpiece we see here. However, this is only an educated guess on my part.<\/p>\n<p>Another thing that&#8217;s interesting about this sax is the condition of its original faux, alligator skin case.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26471\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2011\/dorfler-jorka-stencilled-rene-dumont-tenor-up-for-auction\/faux-alligator-case\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?fit=1280%2C689&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,689\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Faux Alligator Case\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?fit=500%2C269&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-26471 size-full\" title=\"Faux Alligator Case\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?resize=1174%2C632&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"1174\" height=\"632\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?resize=300%2C161&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/07\/Faux-Alligator-Case.jpg?resize=500%2C269&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: jbstreasures35<\/h6>\n<p>Here&#8217;s how the seller describes this vintage, Keilwerth clone horn:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>You are bidding on a Gorgeous Vintage Rene Dumont Tenor Saxophone, I believe this is a stencil work of Keiwerth, It is marked made in Western Germany. Serial # is marked on both the neck and body of the sax, sax also has rolled tone holes. It is in Fantastic condition, almost like a new sax, but there is some finish wear on the backside of the sax. There are no Dents or Dings, pads a soft and have plenty of life left in them. Very nice playing and looking saxophone, comes W\/ Very Nice Rene Dumont Made in France Mouthpiece, as well as Orig. Alligator Skin Hard case.<\/p><\/blockquote>\nngg_shortcode_0_placeholder\n<h6>&nbsp; Source: jbstreasures35<\/h6>\n<p>If you&#8217;re a regular reader of my blog\u2014or have done any research on the brands in question\u2014you&#8217;ll know that these D&amp;J horns were <em><strong>not<\/strong><\/em> Keilwerth stencils, but were instead clones of Julius Keilwerth&#8217;s The New King model (since they were lacking a high F# key.) You can read the full story about these D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophones on the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/dorfler-jorka\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">D&amp;J page on the main portion of my site<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cgi.ebay.com\/ws\/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=320728347027&amp;ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The auction for the vintage, Ren\u00e9 Dumont tenor<\/a> runs until July 21. At the time of writing, there were 4 bids in this German, JK clone. The high bid was $102.50.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 500px; margin: 0px auto; text-align: left; border: 0px solid #25e925; padding: 10px;\">\n<div style=\"float: right; width: 285px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Georgia; font-size: 28px; line-height: 24px; color: #aaff66; text-align: right;\">&#8230;this is just <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color: #66aaff;\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color: #66aaff;\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color: #aaff66;\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Although I&#8217;ve noted so many of these D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophones over the past 18 or so months\u2014under so many different stencil names\u2014that they have &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[220],"tags":[665,660,151,644,218,198,630,643,31],"class_list":["post-26468","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dorfler-jorka","tag-dorfler-jorka","tag-ebay","tag-german-saxophones","tag-photos","tag-stencil-horn","tag-stencil-saxophone","tag-tenor-saxophone","tag-vintage-horns","tag-vintage-sax"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.5 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Although I&#039;ve noted so many of these D\u00f6rfler &amp; J\u00f6rka saxophones over the past 18 or so months\u2014under so many different stencil names\u2014that they have been proven to be anything but rare, this Ren\u00e9 Dumont tenor on eBay currently is interesting for a couple of reasons. 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