{"id":30211,"date":"2012-02-04T09:26:00","date_gmt":"2012-02-04T17:26:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=30211"},"modified":"2024-05-29T11:34:20","modified_gmt":"2024-05-29T18:34:20","slug":"new-mezzo-soprano-really","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/new-mezzo-soprano-really\/","title":{"rendered":"A New, F Mezzo-Soprano. Really?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"30221\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/new-mezzo-soprano-really\/front-view-with-neck-4\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Front View With Neck\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-30221 size-full\" title=\"Front View With Neck\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?resize=1174%2C881&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Conn F Mezzo Soprano saxophone, 24M, silver plated, vintage sax, \" width=\"1174\" height=\"881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Front-View-With-Neck.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Conn 24-M Mezzo-Soprano Serial # 213735&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: SAXQUEST.COM on eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>At the end of last month, a fellow by the name of <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=21931#comment-34023\">Jay&nbsp;left a comment<\/a>&nbsp;on this site asking about F mezzo-sopranos. Specifically, Jay was wondering if&nbsp;a company like Aquilasax were to start making&nbsp;the horns again,&nbsp;would there be a market for them? Or were they just a historical curiosity?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=21931&amp;cpage=1#comment-34029\">My reply<\/a> to this was simple: Yes, they&nbsp;are just a historical curiosity. No, I don&#8217;t see a market for them.<\/p>\n<p>Well, little did I know that Jay&#8217;s&nbsp;dropping of the name&nbsp;Aquilasax, was more than an abstract example.&nbsp;Yesterday morning I happened across <a href=\"http:\/\/forum.saxontheweb.net\/showthread.php?173967-Who-wants-an-F-Mezzo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a thread on SOTW<\/a>,&nbsp;that a fellow named&nbsp;JayAyliff started 2 days ago.<\/p>\n<p>JayAyliff&nbsp;posed the following question in a thread titled, <em>Who wants an F Mezzo?<\/em><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Does anyone actually want to own and play one of these? Aquilasax are considering having some made if enough people want one. They&#8217;re expensive because they&#8217;re not expecting to sell many, but go here to register an interest. Who knows, if lots of people want one maybe the price will come down. <a href=\"http:\/\/aquilasax.3dcartstores.com\/F-Mezzo-saxophone_p_414.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">http:\/\/aquilasax.3dcartstores.com\/F-Mezzo-saxophone_p_414.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>All the best,<\/p>\n<p>Jay Ayliff<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since Jay posted his question, the responses have been\u2014to my mind anyway\u2014quite predictable. So far&nbsp;6 people have responded. Of the&nbsp;6 respondents,&nbsp;5 didn&#8217;t own an F&nbsp;mezzo.<\/p>\n<p>The 1 person who did&nbsp;already own one,&nbsp;paulwl, offered up the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>They do have a unique tone &#8211; they are tonally to the alto what the C melody is to the tenor. But it&#8217;s nothing you couldn&#8217;t try to get on a conventional soprano with a dark setup.<\/p>\n<p>They might be handy for playing English horn parts if an e-h isn&#8217;t available. But again, not worth the $5k-plus one will cost you.<\/p>\n<p>They&#8217;re best as an investment rarity, to be appreciated first and foremost for themselves.<\/p>\n<p>Mine is extra cool &#8217;cause it&#8217;s got a factory-add-on high F# key!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>None of the&nbsp;5 players, who didn&#8217;t own an F mezzo yet, appeared to be poised to&nbsp;sign up on Aquilasax&#8217;s website. Their answers ranged from: &#8220;While I find the F-mezzo an interresting horn with a beautiful voice, I also find it is too similar to the Eb-alto to justify the investment.&#8221; To: &#8220;I have only played 2 or 3 Mezzos (Conn) and I feel it is the least marketable horn of the saxes.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Another interesting point raised, was that &#8220;&#8230;unlike the old C-Mel, which is usually a real bargain, you would still have to transpose. Plus, for orchestra, I really like what french horns add to the mix. I don&#8217;t see a need to put a sax in that position.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The most promising response was: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know that I want one (transposing from Bb and Eb horns in one tune taxes me me enough), but if Aquilasax can match that old Conn sound, I would be interested.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The next day the same poster came back and wrote: &#8220;I was somewhat interested until I DID go to the linked website and saw the price. Best of luck with this project but I think I&#8217;ll pass on it. And I&#8217;m NOT trying to be negative, it is just at that price, I am not motivated to sign up for one.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I think my friend Milandro summed it up quite well when he wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The musical merits or demerits (range, need to transpose, use in the orchestral context ) are rather more the icing on the cake to add motivation to the possible buyers, most will buy an horn like this (if affordable and therefore made in China &#8230;&#8230;..the Jenssen sax is not only expensive because is hand-made but because is made in Denmark with a limited possible market!) for the novelty content. ( the SOTW audience and users pool is the perfect example of how some people collect saxophones (for not too many logical reasons) way above their &#8221; needs&#8221;, or, for some (I am one), even capabilities&#8230;.).<\/p>\n<p>Which will give a surge of sales (so to speak&#8230;&#8230;) in the beginning and then there will be very few sales after that.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>All in all, the fact that this thread has been up for just under&nbsp;60 hours now, and only&nbsp;6 people have responded\u2014and only the original poster was enthusiastic about the project\u2014tells me that a new, F mezzo-soprano is unlikely. If Aquilasax does proceed with the project, early buyers are going to be paying a premium, since they will be covering the R&amp;D,&nbsp;start-up costs, etc. etc.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"30223\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/new-mezzo-soprano-really\/left-rear-views-with-neck\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1200,900\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Left &amp;#038; Rear Views With Neck\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-30223 size-full\" title=\"Left &amp; Rear Views With Neck\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?resize=1174%2C881&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Conn F Mezzo Soprano saxophone, 24M, silver plated, vintage sax, \" width=\"1174\" height=\"881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?w=1200&amp;ssl=1 1200w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/02\/Left-Rear-Views-With-Neck.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Conn 24-M Mezzo-Soprano Serial # 213735&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: SAXQUEST.COM on eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>Currently <a href=\"http:\/\/aquilasax.3dcartstores.com\/F-Mezzo-saxophone_p_414.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aquilasax is projecting the price to be just south of $3,000<\/a>. Quite honestly, if I wanted an F mezzo-soprano, I&#8217;d buy a Conn.<\/p>\n<p>This is a thought echoed by Bill Baily who writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>At a college where I taught, we had a Basset horn in F (like an alto clarinet) which was purchased to play french horn parts in woodwind ensembles due to the lack of the FHs. That would be a use for the mezzo but I still feel it is more of a collector horn and I would just spring for a Conn if I were interested.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the last while there has been a bumper crop of&nbsp;Conn&nbsp;F&nbsp;mezzos&nbsp;for sale or auction. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ebay.com\/sch\/i.html?_nkw=f+mezzo+conn&amp;_sacat=0&amp;LH_PrefLoc=2&amp;_odkw=f+mezzo&amp;_osacat=0&amp;_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">At the moment, there is only 1 on eBay<\/a>, but it is quite the beauty that Quinn is selling.<\/p>\n<p>Now, if you are indeed interested in signing up for a new F mezzo-soprano, I&#8217;m sure <a href=\"http:\/\/aquilasax.3dcartstores.com\/F-Mezzo-saxophone_p_414.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Aquilasax would like to hear from you<\/a>. (Since it seems it won&#8217;t be winning many of us SOTW old timers over any time soon.) \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 500px; margin: 0px auto; text-align: left; border: 0px solid #25e925; padding: 10px;\">\n<div style=\"float: right; width: 285px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Georgia; font-size: 28px; line-height: 24px; color: #aaff66; text-align: right;\">&#8230;this is just <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color: #66aaff;\"> My <strong>\u201creal\u201d <\/strong> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color: #66aaff;\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color: #aaff66;\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Conn 24-M Mezzo-Soprano Serial # 213735&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: SAXQUEST.COM on eBay.com At the end of last month, a fellow by the name of Jay&nbsp;left a &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[191],"tags":[150,387,209,638,163,182,183,644],"class_list":["post-30211","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-modern-horns","tag-american-saxophones","tag-aquilasax","tag-asian-made-saxophones","tag-conn","tag-f-mezzo-soprano","tag-modern-saxophones","tag-new-horns","tag-photos"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.5 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Conn 24-M Mezzo-Soprano Serial # 213735 Source: SAXQUEST.COM on eBay.com At the end of last month, a fellow by the name of Jay left a comment on this site asking about F mezzo-sopranos. 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