{"id":32442,"date":"2012-06-14T10:30:04","date_gmt":"2012-06-14T17:30:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=32442"},"modified":"2024-06-01T10:23:24","modified_gmt":"2024-06-01T17:23:24","slug":"lipstick-cigarette-carousel-appears","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/lipstick-cigarette-carousel-appears\/","title":{"rendered":"When Is A Lipstick Or Cigarette Carousel Not What It Appears?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Mmm&#8230; :scratch:&nbsp;&nbsp; That&#8217;s a really good question, and I don&#8217;t know if I have the answer to it. However, a seller on eBay is currently selling something stamped with the name <em>Selmer<\/em>, which true to form, is listed&nbsp;significantly higher than exactly the same object minus the Selmer name.<\/p>\n<p>What am I talking about you ask?&nbsp;I&#8217;m referring to&nbsp;an auction for what the seller describes, as a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ebay.com\/itm\/VTG-SELMER-Reed-Musical-Saxophone-Lipstick-Carousel-Box-\/360465741461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item53ed6eb695\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">vintage Selmer Reed Musical Saxophone Lipstick Carousel Box<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"32443\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/lipstick-cigarette-carousel-appears\/1-15\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?fit=768%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"768,1024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?fit=500%2C666&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-32443 size-full\" title=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?resize=768%2C1024&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"vintage cigarette lipstick carousel, Reuge, promotional product, Selmer \" width=\"768\" height=\"1024\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?w=768&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?resize=225%2C300&amp;ssl=1 225w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/1.jpg?resize=500%2C666&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: Rock The House Antiques<\/h6>\n<p>&nbsp;Here is what the seller says about this cigarette carousel:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Here we go EBAY&#8230; cool vintage carousel box &#8230; plays music, doors open, revealing little holders for reeds, i&nbsp;assume &#8230; these are usually listed as cigarette, or lipstick carousels &#8230; but with the SELMER&nbsp;label i&nbsp;think it is for reeds &#8230; 7.5&#8243; tall X 7&#8243; X 7&#8243; &#8230;. condition is excellent, it opens fully, but it sticks before fully closing ( maybe just needs oil ) &#8230; when i&nbsp;turned it upside down the Reuge&nbsp;sticker fell out, plays Tales From The Vienna Woods &#8230;. its also stamped made in Selmer England&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For reeds you say. I would find that highly impractical, and unlikely, since reeds would be prone to chipping, cracking, and warping, if kept in this little vintage gem.<\/p>\nngg_shortcode_0_placeholder\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;Source: Rock The House Antiques<\/h6>\n<p>Now in case&nbsp;you&#8217;re like me, and know nothing about how these cigarette carousels work, check out this video from YouTube. It shows a ceramic, Reuge musical cigarette carousel in action.<\/p>\n<p>httpv:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=_hSwUhtSk6s<\/p>\n<p>My hunch is that&nbsp;the current eBay offering&nbsp;was a piece of promotional material that Selmer (UK?) had made for special people. Perhaps for Selmer employees, or dealers, or their&nbsp;special customers.<\/p>\n<p>If you would like to add this bit of Selmer-labelled promo material to your curio cabinet, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ebay.com\/itm\/VTG-SELMER-Reed-Musical-Saxophone-Lipstick-Carousel-Box-\/360465741461?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item53ed6eb695\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">you have until June 17<\/a> to get your bid in. Bids are to start at $150, but so far, no one has pulled the trigger.<\/p>\n<p>That kinda makes sense, because like most things with the name <em>Selmer<\/em> on them, you would need to pay a premium for the <em>privilege<\/em> of owning a Selmer-branded item. Sellers somehow assume that just because it says Selmer on an object, said object is more valuable than the same object sans the Selmer name. This is of course not true.<\/p>\n<p>It just so happens that another seller on eBay has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ebay.ca\/itm\/VTG-REUGE-GREEN-BAKELITE-SWISS-LIPSTICK-CIGARETTE-LIGHTER-MUSIC-BOX-CAROUSEL-\/290727269084?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item43b0b212dc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">almost the identical item<\/a>. However, their cigarette carousel is green, and lacks the Selmer name.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"32445\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/lipstick-cigarette-carousel-appears\/green-bakelight-ouside-view\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?fit=1050%2C1280&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1050,1280\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Green Bakelight Ouside View\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?fit=500%2C609&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-32445 size-full\" title=\"Green Bakelight Ouside View\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?resize=1050%2C1280&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"vintage cigarette lipstick carousel, Reuge,\" width=\"1050\" height=\"1280\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?w=1050&amp;ssl=1 1050w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?resize=246%2C300&amp;ssl=1 246w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Ouside-View.jpg?resize=500%2C609&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1050px) 100vw, 1050px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: electricantique<\/h6>\n<p>The seller describes their cigarette carousel like this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>UP FOR AUCTION IS A GREEN BAKELITE STYLE PLASTIC SWISS LIPSTICK CIGARETTE CAROUSEL MUSIC BOX. Music box is in all good working condition. Push the button music starts playing and doors fold out then back in. Music box is Swiss made Im&nbsp;not sure the maker. Box plays NACH em&nbsp;RAGE schipt&nbsp;d sunne &#8220;la vie en rose&#8221;. Box measures 7 1\/2 inches tall x 6 inches wide base.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"32446\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/lipstick-cigarette-carousel-appears\/green-bakelight-inside-view\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?fit=1280%2C960&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1280,960\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Green Bakelight Inside View\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?fit=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-32446 size-full\" title=\"Green Bakelight Inside View\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?resize=1174%2C881&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"vintage cigarette lipstick carousel, Reuge,\" width=\"1174\" height=\"881\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/Green-Bakelight-Inside-View.jpg?resize=500%2C375&amp;ssl=1 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Source: electricantique<\/h6>\n<p>There is currently 1 bid on this green, cigarette carousel, and that bid is $49.99. With only 4 days to go until auction&#8217;s end, it will be interesting to see how high the price goes on this vintage piece.<\/p>\n<p>Getting back to the rather odd economies of the name <em>Selmer<\/em> for a moment. I have a number of vintage, French mouthpiece caps made in the same plant that made the Selmer ones. They are just as well made, and do the same job, as those with the Selmer stamp on them.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/th_freud_01.gif?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"32460\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/lipstick-cigarette-carousel-appears\/th_freud_01\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/th_freud_01.gif?fit=89%2C100&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"89,100\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"freud\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/th_freud_01.gif?fit=89%2C100&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-32460 size-full\" title=\"freud\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/th_freud_01.gif?resize=89%2C100&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" width=\"89\" height=\"100\"><\/a><br \/>\nSometimes a mouthpiece cap is just a mouthpiece cap. And sometimes a cigarette carousel is just a cigarette carousel. \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 500px; margin: 0px auto; text-align: left; border: 0px solid #25e925; padding: 10px;\">\n<div style=\"float: right; width: 285px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Georgia; font-size: 28px; line-height: 24px; color: #aaff66; text-align: right;\">&#8230;this is just <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color: #66aaff;\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color: #66aaff;\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color: #aaff66;\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mmm&#8230; :scratch:&nbsp;&nbsp; That&#8217;s a really good question, and I don&#8217;t know if I have the answer to it. 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