{"id":32624,"date":"2012-06-24T11:01:45","date_gmt":"2012-06-24T18:01:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=32624"},"modified":"2024-06-01T10:03:46","modified_gmt":"2024-06-01T17:03:46","slug":"triumpf-tenor-sax-sale-really","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2012\/triumpf-tenor-sax-sale-really\/","title":{"rendered":"A Triumpf Tenor Sax For Sale: But What Is It Really?"},"content":{"rendered":"

A few days ago a member of the Woodwind Forum, brought this Triumpf tenor saxophone<\/a> to the attention of the forum members. Kevin wasn’t necessarily wanting to get into a discussion about who made the stencil, but just wanted to point out a very pretty, vintage saxophone.<\/p>\n

\"Triumpf,<\/a><\/p>\n

     Source: schmuzel2006<\/h6>\n

This silver plated, full-pearl-model tenor, is indeed a stencil, and I was immediately trying to figure out who made it.<\/p>\n

Triumpf was not a saxophone maker, and the name of Oscar Adler’s, top of the line model, Triumph<\/strong><\/a>, was spelled differently. Also, the Adler Triumph<\/a> had 11 extra keys, and was keyed up to high G\u2014things that this tenor sax clearly is lacking.<\/p>\n

\"Triumpf,<\/a><\/p>\n

     Source: schmuzel2006<\/h6>\n

The shape of the right pinkie keys, as well as the low C key mechanism, stuck me as being very JK-like<\/a>.<\/p>\n

\"Triumpf,<\/a><\/p>\n

     Source: schmuzel2006<\/h6>\n

Before WWII, while the Julius Keilwerth company was still in Graslitz, JK’s latter King models<\/a>, as well as their early Toneking<\/a> and The New King<\/a> saxophones, had their chromatic F# tone holes located on the back of the body tube.<\/p>\n

Also, this style of key guards was something that JK used on those same models.<\/p>\n

As far as the mother of pearl key touches goes, JK used these on both their Solo<\/a> and Soloist<\/a> model of Tonekings.<\/p>\n

The other thing that immediately struck me as being JK-like on this Triumpf tenor, was the octave mechanism.<\/p>\n

\"Triumpf,<\/a><\/p>\n

     Source: schmuzel2006<\/h6>\n

The metal support\/spacer brace on the octave lever (on the left side of photo above), is something we see in certain JK horns. Here is the same feature<\/a> on JK-stencilled G\u00f6tz alto.<\/p>\n

The shape of the left pinkie cluster of the Triumpf tenor also is a dead-ringer for that of the Toneking Solo model<\/a>\u2014it however, only has MOP on the G# key, not the entire cluster like we see below.<\/p>\n

\"Triumpf,<\/a><\/p>\n

      Source: schmuzel2006<\/h6>\n

The seller is not a sax player, and can’t provide any real information. He\/she says:<\/p>\n

Triumpf Saxophon mit Koffer<\/p>\n

Alter sch\u00e4tze ich um 1930<\/p>\n

83 cm lang<\/p>\n

Das Instrument ist nicht verbeult, es sind f\u00fcr mich keine Sch\u00e4den zu erkennen. Habe extra viele Fotos gemacht damit man alles erkennen kann.<\/p>\n

Kenne mich mit Musikinstrumenten nicht aus, versuche aber alle Fragen so gut es geht zu beantworten. Funktion wurde nicht gepr\u00fcft.<\/p>\n

Ungereinigter Fund-Zustand!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Helen Translate<\/em> says:<\/p>\n

Triumpf saxophone with case.<\/p>\n

I approximate the age to be around 1930.<\/p>\n

83 cm [32.6 in]<\/p>\n

The instrument is not dented, and I don’t see any damage. I took extra photos so that you can see all of it.<\/p>\n

I don’t know anything about musical instruments, but will try to answer all questions as best as I can. The horn was not tested.<\/p>\n

It is in the condition it was found. It has not been cleaned.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

It might not have been cleaned, but it is in remarkably clean condition…<\/p>\nngg_shortcode_0_placeholder\n

   Source: schmuzel2006<\/h6>\n

Although the seller doesn’t provide a serial #, nor does he provide a photo of the right thumb rest area of the horn, my best guess is that this is JK stencil of either their Toneking Solo, or Soloist model. Furthermore, based on the photos of the horns that I’ve been able to collect to date, I’m guessing it would be from the 12XXX to 16XXX serial number range.<\/p>\n

But I’ve been wrong before, and this might not be a JK at all. I leave it up to you to decide if I’m right or wrong.<\/p>\n

If you like mysteries, or if you know for sure what this is, and you think this tenor would make a fine addition to your horn stable, you have until June 29 to get your bids in. This Triumpf tenor<\/a> currently has 7 bids on it, with the high bid being \u20ac101.00\u2014that’s $127.01, according to xe.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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…this is just my blog<\/em>. <\/span> My \u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should check it out too.<\/span>There\u2019s lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n
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