{"id":41101,"date":"2014-05-18T08:20:47","date_gmt":"2014-05-18T16:20:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=41101"},"modified":"2024-06-13T09:45:50","modified_gmt":"2024-06-13T16:45:50","slug":"a-c-melody-saxophone-in-its-natural-environment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2014\/a-c-melody-saxophone-in-its-natural-environment\/","title":{"rendered":"A C Melody Saxophone In Its Natural Environment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I first saw this photo by Greg Wass posted to Flickr a few weeks ago, and immediately thought: Aha, a C melody saxophone in its natural environment.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a typical 1920s front parlour with all the accoutrements needed for an evening of entertaining the neighbours and friends. We&#8217;ve got the piano, sheet music, a couple of chairs, a piano, trombone, and a C melody saxophone&#8230; or is it?<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 24pt;\">Winnipeg 1933: &#8220;our front room&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"41707\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2014\/a-c-melody-saxophone-in-its-natural-environment\/winnipeg-1933\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?fit=1361%2C1140&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1361,1140\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Winnipeg-1933\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?fit=520%2C435&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-41707 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?resize=1174%2C983&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Winnipeg-1933, front parlour for entertaining, piano, trombone, C melody saxophone, piano stool, chairs, lamp, \" width=\"1174\" height=\"983\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?w=1361&amp;ssl=1 1361w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?resize=300%2C251&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?resize=520%2C435&amp;ssl=1 520w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/05\/Winnipeg-1933.jpg?resize=358%2C300&amp;ssl=1 358w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1174px) 100vw, 1174px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Photo posted to Flickr by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/gregorywass\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Greg Wass<\/a>&nbsp; Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/62077150@N06\/12513086805\/in\/photolist-k4JQKX-k2dxBR-k2dx7c-k2dxpM-k2eeVp-k2eem8-jWBeqy-jTGPht-jSBWHt-jScJUA-jSbdeZ-jRhuEE-jRc6n8-jRgXmC-jRgagH-jRdx1Z-jReMXF-jRhofK-jRftw1-jRi7Zc-jRgj7D-jRh7FF-jReokb-jRg4fJ-jRdLNt-jRfFc4-jRcRcn-jRgvo5-jRcD1D-jRh1Sf-jRePva-jRhAix-jRffnW-jRdAbi-jRdhqt-jRgfDX-jRfZop-jRgefJ-jRgG4x-jRgbgr-jRgCPB-jRgPMD-jRgFRa-jRdRjc-jRjBKs-jRh1Sp-jRikdS-jRcesB-jRgMaL-jRdzur-jReBsJ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Flickr<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>When I took a closer look at the photo today, I was suddenly no longer so sure what kind of sax this was. You know what the say about real estate: location, location, location. Well this horn&#8217;s location made my mind automatically see a C melody.<\/p>\n<p>However, being able to tell the difference between Bb and C pitched tenors is not always so simple\u2014especially when dealing with vintage B&amp;W photos that have been converted via a scanner from film to digital. Furthermore, the saxophone in this photo is not the focal point, which adds to the blur, and therefore can&#8217;t be cleaned up in Photoshop.<\/p>\n<p>Nonetheless, if you look at the photo at full size, some of the horn&#8217;s features are identifiable:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>It has a curved neck.\n<ul>\n<li>This doesn&#8217;t rule out anything other than a <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/Right-Side5.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">straight neck Conn C melody <\/a>saxophone.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>It doesn&#8217;t have a <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/01\/Right-Side-With-Neck.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>man in the moon<\/em> neck brace<\/a>, like we see in the Buescher C melodies.<\/li>\n<li>It does have a <a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/Pan-Americans.ws_.jpg?resize=1429%2C893\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mercedes-style key guard<\/a> on the low C key, like we know that Conn used on its horns (including Pan American).<\/li>\n<li>Since a number of German saxophone manufacturers were heavily influenced by Conn, it could be one of those as well, but not all made C-pitched horns. Notably, JK didn&#8217;t.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>All of this brand research\/speculation is interesting, but is it a C melody saxophone? Or is it a Bb tenor?<\/h2>\n<p>After spending more than half an hour scouring the Internet looking at images of Conn New Wonder C mels, I am not any wiser. Trying to ID a sax from only 1, vintage, grainy, B&amp;W photograph is really a fool&#8217;s errand. So let&#8217;s just leave it up to individual imagine.<\/p>\n<p>Me? I&#8217;m going to go with the old real estate adage of <em>location, location, location<\/em>. Since this was a family&#8217;s front parlour in 1922, and it was set up in such a way that it could be used for entertaining, I&#8217;m going to say the horn in the B&amp;W photo was the then-\u00fcber-popular C melody saxophone\u2014one like depicted in the following ad by rival saxophone company Buescher.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"37210\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2013\/another-slam-against-the-sax-from-1921\/life-of-the-party-1925-ws\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?fit=568%2C726&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"568,726\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Life Of The Party 1925 ws\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?fit=520%2C664&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-37210 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?resize=568%2C726&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"Life Of The Party 1925, Buescher vintage ad, C melody saxophone\" width=\"568\" height=\"726\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?w=568&amp;ssl=1 568w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?resize=234%2C300&amp;ssl=1 234w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/Life-Of-The-Party-1925-ws.jpg?resize=520%2C664&amp;ssl=1 520w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 568px) 100vw, 568px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><strong>Update June 2024:<\/strong> Since this post was originally written, I have written <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/articles\/how-can-you-tell-a-c-melody-from-a-bb-tenor-sax\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">an article<\/a> on how to distinguish a C melody saxophone from a tenor or alto.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 500px; margin: 0px auto; text-align: left; border: 0px solid #25e925; padding: 10px;\">\n<div style=\"float: right; width: 285px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Georgia; font-size: 28px; line-height: 24px; color: #aaff66; text-align: right;\">&#8230;this is just <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color: #66aaff;\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color: #66aaff;\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color: #aaff66;\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I first saw this photo by Greg Wass posted to Flickr a few weeks ago, and immediately thought: Aha, a C melody saxophone in its &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[79],"tags":[640,203,638,202,633,644,38],"class_list":["post-41101","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-photos","tag-buescher","tag-c-melody-saxophone","tag-conn","tag-flickr","tag-musings","tag-photos","tag-vintage-ads"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.5 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"The C melody saxophone was the popular instrument for the masses in the 1920s. 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