{"id":41523,"date":"2014-04-28T10:15:57","date_gmt":"2014-04-28T18:15:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=41523"},"modified":"2024-06-12T10:06:15","modified_gmt":"2024-06-12T17:06:15","slug":"hohner-president-with-bevelled-tone-holes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2014\/hohner-president-with-bevelled-tone-holes\/","title":{"rendered":"Hohner President With Bevelled Tone Holes"},"content":{"rendered":"

I saw something on the German eBay site the other day that got me very excited\u2014from a saxophone historian’s perspective I mean. A seller in Germany is parting with his 1952 Hohner President with bevelled tone holes<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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Source: chrismati017  on eBay.de<\/span><\/p>\n

For years now I have been researching Hohner President saxophones, and other saxophones made by Max Keilwerth. Not only do I have pages on my website about both the Hohner President<\/a> and Max Keilwerth<\/a>, but even my Bassic Sax Blog has a series of articles<\/a> about the Hohner Presidents.<\/p>\n

However, despite the hundreds of horns that I have searched out online, and the thousands of Hohner President photos that I have looked at, to date I have only seen a few other Hohner President with bevelled tone holes<\/a>. <\/p>\n

Here is how the seller describes this interesting saxophone:<\/p>\n

Profi-Instrument Tenor Saxophon Saxofon Hohner President – Max Keilwerth<\/p>\n

Ein sehr seltenes Hohner President der fr\u00fchen Phase \u2013 Max Keilwerth baute bei Hohner die Saxophon Abteilung auf \u2013 dieses Sax ist eines davon. Es hat aufgel\u00f6tete Tonlochkamine (keine geb\u00f6rdelten \/ gerollten Tonl\u00f6cher !!!); siehe Bilder (Seriennummer 21XX \u2013 Baujahr ca. 1953). Diese Instrumente geh\u00f6rten in den gro\u00dfen Orchestern (z.B. Max Greger, Hugo Strasser, Paul Kuhn…) zu den direkten Konkurrenten von Selmer Saxophonen.<\/p>\n

Das Sax ist versilbert (zu ~90% erhalten), wiegt fast 3,5kg (!!!), hat einige Sondertriller und aufgel\u00f6tete Tonl\u00f6cher. 11 Fingerauflagen sind mit Perlmutt belegt. Der Trichter ist mit ca. 155mm am Rand recht breit (= big bell). Sp\u00e4tere Hohner Presidents haben nur einen Trichterdurchmesser von ca. 148mm.<\/p>\n

Das Saxophon wurde vor ca. 3 Jahren teil\u00fcberholt. Dabei wurden unter anderem die Polster neu gemacht und die Federn auf relativ leichten Widerstand eingestellt. Intonation und Sound sind ausgewogen \/ exzellent. Das Instrument ist von oben bis unten voll spielbar. Die Mechanik ist nicht verbogen. Beulen \/ Dellen kann ich nicht entdecken.<\/p>\n

Die Bilder geh\u00f6ren mit zum Verkauf und zeigen den heutigen Zustand dieses tollen Tenors. Das Instrument kommt in einem Original Koffer, der f\u00fcr das Alter in akzeptablem Zustand ist.<\/p>\n

Das Instrument kann gerne in der N\u00e4he von Kassel angespielt werden. Eine Abholung w\u00e4re w\u00fcnschenswert.<\/p>\n

Ich will (muss :-)) ) meine Sammlung deutlich verkleinern und verkaufe in anderen Auktionen weitere Instrumente. Wer bei Saxophonen den alten Vintage Sound sucht, ist hier gut beraten.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Helen translate says…<\/p>\n

Professional model tenor saxophone, Hohner President – Max Keilwerth<\/p>\n

A very rare, early phase,  Hohner President – Max Keilwerth built up saxophone department at Hohner – this sax is one of them. It has soldered tone holes (not rolled tone holes!!!); see photos (serial number 21XX – manufacturered circa. 1953). [Actually, it’s from 1952<\/a>. 1953 would give it rolled tone holes.] These instruments were included in the major orchestras, (for example Max Gregor, Hugo Strasser, Paul Kuhn…) and were direct competitors of Selmer saxophones.<\/p>\n

The sax is silver plated (90% remaining, weighs nearly 3.5 kg (!), has numerous extra trill keys and soldered tone holes. Eleven key touches have mother of pearl on them. The bell is approximately 155 mm wide across the bell (=big bell). Later Hohner Presidents only have a bell diameter of 148 mm.<\/p>\n

This saxophone was partially overhauled 3 years ago. Among other things, the pads were replaced, and the springs were adjusted so that they have a relatively light resistance. Intonation and sound are excellent. The instrument is fully playable from top to bottom. The mechanisms are not bent, and I can see no dents\/dings.<\/p>\n

The pictures are part of the sale, and show the present condition of this great tenor. This instruments comes with its original case, which for its age, is in acceptable condition.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The photos that the seller provides, show a vintage Hohner President with bevelled tone holes that does appear to be remarkably good condition.<\/p>\n

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Hohner tenor 21XX Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>
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Hohner tenor 21XX Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div>
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Here you can see the soldered & bevelled tone holes. Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>
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The engraving is the same as on later models. Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>
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Hohner tenor 21XX Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>
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Notice this horn doesn’t have a high F# key. Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>
\"Here <\/a>
Here you can see the soldered & bevelled tone holes. Source: chrismati017 <\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div> <\/div>\n

Unfortunately it`s hard to see that this sax has a big bell. Without another horn for comparison, there’s nothing to visually compare it to. However, I can tell you that my Hohner tenor (#104XXX) has a very small bell compared to many of my horns. I haven’t measured its diameter, but this is what multiple Hohner owner Theo wrote in his recent comment<\/a>:<\/p>\n

Thanks for mentioning the Hohner 21xx. Interesting … is that its owner writes that the bell width of the Hohner President varies from 155 to 148 mm.<\/p>\n

When checking this fact on my tenor saxophones I found:<\/p>\n

President 51xx 150 mm
\nHohner President from ebay ad 21xx 155 mm (measurement owner)
\nHohner President 26xx 155 mm
\nHohner President 41xx 150 mm
\nHohner President 131xx 141 mm
\nSo he is right that the Bell diameter changes.
\nBut it is just one of the changes made during the lifetime of this model.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

If you are interested in adding this lovely vintage Hohner President with bevelled tone holes to your saxophone stable, you have until May 6 to get your bids in<\/a> (but only if you live in Germany, since the seller won’t ship out of country). Bids are to start at \u20ac890.00, which xe.com<\/a> currently estimates to be $1232.52 US.<\/p>\n

So far there were no bids yet, and it is worth noting that this tenor has been up for auction once before. The start price was the same, and the auction ended with 0 bids.<\/p>\n

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…this is just my blog<\/em>. <\/span> My \u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should check it out too.<\/span>There\u2019s lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n
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