{"id":42085,"date":"2014-06-18T12:18:16","date_gmt":"2014-06-18T20:18:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=42085"},"modified":"2024-06-13T11:39:50","modified_gmt":"2024-06-13T18:39:50","slug":"are-you-in-pain-from-playing-sax","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2014\/are-you-in-pain-from-playing-sax\/","title":{"rendered":"Are You In Pain From Playing Sax?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Is there a way to overcome the pain from playing sax?<\/h2>\n<p>Last night I was trying to catch up on some of the more interesting threads on SOTW, and I happened across <a href=\"http:\/\/forum.saxontheweb.net\/showthread.php?209903-Best-exercises-for-holding-a-horn-for-4-hours\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this one<\/a>, in which the OP asked a question that I hadn&#8217;t seen before: What&#8217;s the best exercises for holding a horn for 4 hours?<\/p>\n<p>While vertical rowing and yoga were popular options offered up, the thread got me thinking about how playing soprano, alto, tenor, and baritone (I play bass <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/09\/Sitting-Angle-Front-View.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">in a stand<\/a>) all hurt in different ways. Could doing an exercise routine of some sort really be the answer to the pain?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Sax-up-the-Ass-copy.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"26184\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/sax-up-the-ass-copy\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Sax-up-the-Ass-copy.jpg?fit=468%2C757&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"468,757\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"Sax up the Ass copy\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Sax-up-the-Ass-copy.jpg?fit=468%2C757&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-26184 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Sax-up-the-Ass-copy.jpg?resize=468%2C757&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"human skeleton x-ray, soprano saxophone up the ass, pain from playing sax\" width=\"468\" height=\"757\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Sax-up-the-Ass-copy.jpg?w=468&amp;ssl=1 468w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Sax-up-the-Ass-copy.jpg?resize=185%2C300&amp;ssl=1 185w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 468px) 100vw, 468px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h2>Not all saxophones are created equal<\/h2>\n<p>It is worth noting that the pain I feel is to some degree based on which brand or model of saxophone I&#8217;m playing. For example, the heavier the horn, the worse the pain in my neck is, which is why my Committee III baritone hurts my neck much more, and in a much shorter time, than my Mark VI bari. Makes sense, right? Or the less sophisticated the right thumb rest is, the more uncomfortable my right hand becomes while playing, and the more pain I have in my right thumb.<\/p>\n<p>This is the order in which I most frequently play the four most common saxophone voices: baritone, tenor, alto, and finally soprano. Therefore based on this order, here is the pain I most commonly get from playing the saxophone voice in question.<\/p>\n<h2>Baritone<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Pain in the neck if playing with a standard neck strap.<\/li>\n<li>Pain in the back if playing with a standard neck strap.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Tenor<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Pain in the thumb if playing anything other than my Mark VI.<\/li>\n<li>Pain in my neck if playing my JK Toneking, Hohner President, or Martin Handcraft.<\/li>\n<li>Pain in left pinkie if playing my Martin Handcraft.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Alto<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Nada. Nothing. Even when I play it for hours for an evening performance nothing seems to bother me.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Soprano (straight)<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">The worst offender<\/span> because of the way it is held with the bell towards the audience.<\/li>\n<li>Pain in my neck, shoulders, and arms because of above.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Now I readily admit I have not tried vertical rowing, yoga, core strengthening or isometric neck exercises, but then I&#8217;m honestly not sure that&#8217;s what I need to be doing. There are however, some ways to make playing sax easier using equipment.<\/p>\n<h2>Here is what I&#8217;ve tried in order to overcome the pain from playing sax:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>A harness for baritone saxophone.\n<ul>\n<li>I&#8217;ve been using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\/harness2.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this custom one for years<\/a>, but recently bought the new <a href=\"https:\/\/vandoren.fr\/en\/vandoren-accessories\/universal-harness\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Vandoren Universal Saxophone Harness<\/a>. Yah, it&#8217;s crazy expensive, and no, it doesn&#8217;t work with all saxophones. (I find it doesn&#8217;t work on my Committee III baritone.) But other than on that one horn, <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/VD-Harness-front.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this thing<\/a> seems to works great. Time will tell how long this $160+ piece of gear\u2014with its <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/VD-Harness-back.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">surprisingly high plastic content<\/a>\u2014will last.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<li><strong>Update 2024:<\/strong> still using it. Works great on bass. I checked with Vandoren, and yes, it is rated for the weight of a bass sax. \ud83d\ude09&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"The new universal saxophone harness by Vandoren\" width=\"1174\" height=\"660\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/uiBRn9vFLF0?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>A <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/07\/Runyon_Saxophone_Thumb_Saver_e.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">rubberized right thumb rest cover<\/a> for the tenor saxophones that don&#8217;t have an adjustable one.\n<ul>\n<li>I found this did not work. The cover didn&#8217;t stay on, even when applied with rubber cement or whatever compound my tech used.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li>I had a strap ring attached to my Mark VI soprano, since it didn&#8217;t have one to begin with, but that didn&#8217;t really help. All this does is allow the horn to hang around my neck like a regular saxophone, but it doesn&#8217;t change the angle at which I have to hold it.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>What have you tried?<\/h2>\n<p>So these are the things that I&#8217;ve tried in an effort to reduce the pain from playing sax. What about you? Do you experience pain playing saxophone for a longer period of time? What have you tried as a work-around? Leave a comment below and let&#8217;s exchange some possible solutions.<\/p>\n<div style=\"width: 500px; margin: 0px auto; text-align: left; border: 0px solid #25e925; padding: 10px;\">\n<div style=\"float: right; width: 285px; margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; margin-left: 10px; padding-bottom: 10px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, Georgia; font-size: 28px; line-height: 24px; color: #aaff66; text-align: right;\">&#8230;this is just <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">my <em>blog<\/em>. <\/span><span style=\"color: #66aaff;\"> My <b>\u201creal\u201d <\/b> website is<\/span> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bassic-sax.info\">www.bassic-sax.info.<\/a> <span style=\"color: #66aaff;\">If you\u2019re looking for <\/span> <span style=\"color: #fe4899;\"> <strong>sax info<\/strong>,<\/span> you should <span style=\"color: #aaff66;\">check it out too.<\/span><span style=\"color: #fe4899;\">There\u2019s <em>lots<\/em> there! <\/span><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;\">&nbsp;<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Is there a way to overcome the pain from playing sax? 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