{"id":45813,"date":"2017-03-26T11:27:45","date_gmt":"2017-03-26T18:27:45","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=45813"},"modified":"2024-06-24T09:37:01","modified_gmt":"2024-06-24T16:37:01","slug":"sax-playing-leads-to-divorce-in-1922","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2017\/sax-playing-leads-to-divorce-in-1922\/","title":{"rendered":"Sax Playing Leads To Divorce In 1922"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2>Could it be that your sax playing leads to divorce for you?<\/h2>\n<p>Does your partner like your saxophone playing? Are you an evening person? Do you like practicing into the late hours of the night, or into the early morning hours?<\/p>\n<p>Depending on how you answered these questions, you could end up like Mr. Herbert Lorden, a former saxophone player in the San Francisco theatre&#8217;s orchestra. Back in 1922, his saxophone practicing choices quite possibly left him single, and paying alimony for years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"45814\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2017\/sax-playing-leads-to-divorce-in-1922\/the-spokesman-review-feb-23-1922-framed-ws\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?fit=389%2C815&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"389,815\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23,-1922-framed-ws\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?fit=389%2C815&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-45814 size-full\" title=\"saxophone breaks up a home, Spokman Review Feb 1922\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?resize=389%2C815&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"sax playing leads to divorce, The Spokesman Review Feb 23 1922, newspaper article\" width=\"389\" height=\"815\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?w=389&amp;ssl=1 389w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?resize=143%2C300&amp;ssl=1 143w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/The-Spokesman-Review-Feb-23-1922-framed-ws.jpg?resize=72%2C150&amp;ssl=1 72w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 389px) 100vw, 389px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/news.google.com\/newspapers?id=zuUUAAAAIBAJ&amp;sjid=qOEDAAAAIBAJ&amp;pg=4703%2C2927641\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Spokesman=Review, February 23, 1922<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Given that no fault divorces were still decades away, Mrs. Lorden had to argue her case for wanting a divorce. In the event that her husband&#8217;s choice of practicing his saxophone past midnight wasn&#8217;t enough, it seems another, arguably more serious one was needed too.<\/p>\n<p>According to the article, Mr. Lorden felt that husbands didn&#8217;t need to help with the children, and should be left alone to do they wanted. Interesting guy&#8230; How enlightened of him&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and just as a side note, this story was only picked up on because the 1920s backlash against saxophones was already in full <em>swing<\/em>, and as the author of this piece wrote:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Music may be all right in its time and place and it may have charms that soothe the savage breast [sic]. All this Mrs. Loren will admit, but Mrs. Lorden is not a savage and the home and midnight are not the proper place and time, she declares. She has had experience, so she ought to know. <strong>Which also raises the question: Is the sour moan of a saxophone music? <\/strong>[emphasis added]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yup, no bias against saxophones there. \ud83d\ude08<\/p>\n<h2>How the story of the Lordens relates in today&#8217;s world<\/h2>\n<p>I wonder if Mrs. Lorden was granted that divorce, or if Mr. Lorden contested it? Either way, having a partner who is on a different schedule than you is not necessarily a deal breaker, but it can be a challenge.<\/p>\n<p>I am not now, nor have I ever been, a real morning person. I don&#8217;t wake up really early in the morning with a spring in my step; jump in the shower; and then plunge into the day&#8217;s activities with glee and abandon. It has always taken me a good 90 minutes to wake up once I&#8217;m upright. That old saying: Don&#8217;t talk to me until I&#8217;ve had my 2nd cup of coffee, used to be emblazoned on my coffee cups at home and work.<\/p>\n<p>The evenings, late nights, and very early mornings are great for me. That&#8217;s why I could work nights, as well as play in clubs. I don&#8217;t crash and burn until around well past 2 am.<\/p>\n<p>Now I have never been as rude as Mr. Lorden from San Francisco allegedly was, and don&#8217;t practice my saxophone past midnight. However, it used to not be uncommon for me to practice until 10 or 11 at night during the week. Fortunately my partner doesn&#8217;t go to bed at 8 or 9 pm, and I&#8217;ve lived in a house for most of my adult life. Therefore I don&#8217;t have neighbours living above or below me to disturb. I also keep my windows closed when I practice, so the sound really doesn&#8217;t travel that far.<\/p>\n<p>All of this discussion about practicing late at night, spouses, and circadian rhythm compatibility leads to perhaps the inevitable question: What would you do if you find out the person you&#8217;re dating hates saxophones? Would you:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Politely let them know that the two of you are incompatible.<\/li>\n<li>Dump them hard and fast. Hell, leave them holding the check in the restaurant that you&#8217;re at!&nbsp; <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-includes\/images\/smilies\/mrgreen.png?w=1174&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\":mrgreen:\" class=\"wp-smiley\" style=\"height: 1em; max-height: 1em;\" \/><\/li>\n<li>Continue to date them, but casually, and without the idea of any future commitments.<\/li>\n<li>Expose them to all the possibilities of sensual saxophone sounds, and what that could mean for your, um, sax life? \ud83d\ude09<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Sax By The Fire\" width=\"1174\" height=\"660\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/AevnAIB4Ess?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Could it be that your sax playing leads to divorce for you? 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