{"id":49267,"date":"2020-04-16T11:02:24","date_gmt":"2020-04-16T18:02:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=49267"},"modified":"2024-06-26T11:18:44","modified_gmt":"2024-06-26T18:18:44","slug":"what-it-takes-to-sell-a-horn-privately","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2020\/what-it-takes-to-sell-a-horn-privately\/","title":{"rendered":"What it takes to sell a horn privately"},"content":{"rendered":"

We’ve all seen them: ads on eBay, Craigs List, Reverb, et al that feature no, inaccurate, or total bullshit descriptions of instruments\u2014often combined with tiny or blurry photos in which you can’t discern any real details. If you really want to sell a horn privately, this is not the way to get top dollar.<\/p>\n

Seriously dude, if you want to make some cash off of the gear you are not using, you have to put some effort and work into it. Duh… It’s not rocket science. Not even a 5 digit Mark VI from 1954 is going to bring you top $$ with crap pics and no description, or a line of BS or flowery pose.<\/p>\n

Buyers want facts and pics. That’s it. That’s all.<\/strong><\/p>\n

The best private ad I’ve seen in recent memory<\/h3>\n

A few weeks ago I happened across an ad on eBay for a very vintage Pierret alto. Not just any Pierret alto however. This alto was a Vibrator model, which was the first two-tone Pierret of this vintage that I have ever seen. It was silver with gold accents. It was an absolutely stunning horn.<\/p>\n

The Pierret was listed for sale by a German saxophonist. This is how it was described:<\/p>\n

Seller Notes: \u201cJust restored and overhauled with metal resonators.\u201d
\nModel: Vibrator with Virtuor
\nKey Finish: gold plated
\nCountry\/Region of Manufacture: France
\nBody Material: Brass
\nBody Finish: Silver-Plated
\nBrand: Pierret
\nExact Year: 1930s
\nSkill Level: professional<\/p>\n

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As I want to stay away from building a collection I am selling my freshly restored Pierret “Vibrator” alto which was built in the beginning 1930s with the underslung neck (patented 1929 as \u201cVirtuor\u201d). This one has Pierret\u00b4s rare most expensive finish according to their 1938 catalgoue – a gold inlaid engraving and the two tone finish with gold plated mechanic. Pierret Saxophones accompanied me for several years of my professional career, especially for playing in big bands.<\/p>\n

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In my opinion, the most beautiful model in which the company was able to keep up with its main competitor Selmer in Paris is the “vibrator” model with the “Virtuor” neck, built in the early 1930s. It has a wide bore and large cup and is built very solid. I find it to be the company’s best and most original one which shares more somehow in feeling and tonal response and flexibility with a CONN NW I than other french saxophones I have played.<\/p>\n

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The L. Pierret company came from the stream of the “music makers association” which was a loose bunch of independent saxophone builders who had worked before with Adolphe Sax, most namely Feuillet who served as the chief of the Adolphe Sax workshop and Millereau who left the sax company and manufactured as early as in the 1860s his own instruments. Louis Joseph PIERRET was born on December 8, 1874 in the fifth arrondissement in Paris, son of Marie Jos\u00e9phine PIERRET, a servant and an unnamed father. At the time of his marriage, on December 16, 1899, he declared himself to be a luthier and domiciled at 47 rue Piat. He died in Paris sixteenth on August 4, 1952. Louis Pierret was a former worker for the company MILLEREAU et BESSON when he founded his company specializing in saxophones in 1906. There is only scattered evidence on the net as the company did not have such a lasting commercial success and impact.<\/p>\n

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https:\/\/rp-archivesmusiquefacteurs.blogspot.com\/2011\/03\/saxophones-pierret-1906-1971.html<\/a><\/p>\n

http:\/\/luthiervents.blogspot.com\/search\/label\/Pierret.El%C3%A9ments%20d%27archives.Remise%20en%20%C3%A9t%C3%A2t<\/a><\/p>\n

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When comparing vintage french saxophones in the 1920s and 1930 it stands out for me that SELMER (as Buffet and Couesnon) experimented early on with a small bore design improving response (particularly in the lower register) and evenness of scale whereas a few other companies including Adolphe Sax Jr. maintained the large wide bore profile longer – like the American companies, particularly CONN. An interesting comparison is for example an early Selmer model 22 or 26 with a Selmer 28 “Large Bore” (after the take over of the Sax Workshop by Selmer) where suddenly there is a different core sound and openness in response. These are in my opinion the most beautiful sounding Selmer instruments.<\/p>\n

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The PIERRETs of this era are very similar to that concept of a wider bore and bell and maintain a similar almost tenor like quality on their altos. Their mechanical improvements resemble those of COUESNON\u00b4s monopoly models maybe the closest, as they also worked with the top soloists in the 1930s (for example Hippolyte Poimboeuf, the tenor saxophone player in Marcel Mule’s sax quartet) before eventually SELMER managed to control the market with their larger resources. PIERRET manufactured only saxophones, no clarinets or other woodwinds and could not invest much in larger building workshops. They eventually lost out during the vast expansion of saxophone manufacturing in the 1930s to bigger companies despite filing numerous patents and improving their design slowly. It stands to reason that the later Pierret models were always trying to keep up with Selmer and Buffet in terms of mechanical improvements but the early models like this one just have quite a lovely broad presence that is hard to find in other french saxophones in the 1930s, only perhaps in SML saxophones later onwards. The front F and ergonomics are original and feel quote modern. The octave mechanism is fine and the intonation tendencies quite balanced, I think that speaks of the high quality of craftsmanship of this builder…<\/p>\n

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Here is a video of a playtest:
\nhttps:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=MAj9YTfbk7Y&feature=youtu.be<\/p>\n

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This saxophone has a wonderful, warm, large sound with great balance and balanced intonation across the entire range. This model was either an exhibit or made for a soloist, it has a complex engraving that was inlaid with gold and the entire mechanism was gold-plated. The fine jeweler engraving was only used by Selmer at this time for special exhibition models and is very rarely found on other saxophones. It was just freshly overhauled with high quality pads with metal resonators. It comes in a somewhat modern SELMER case from the 1970s as pictured.<\/p>\n

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You will find good information on the company in the internet – this instrument was owned by a passionate french saxophonist for many decades until his retirement and meticulously cared for, it deserves to have another player dedicated to it who plays it for many years as main instrument.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

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What makes this such a great ad?<\/h3>\n
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  1. Although the description is long, it is not simply a glowing, flowery endorsement of how wonderful the instrument is. It is a factual accounting of the instrument’s characteristics.<\/li>\n
  2. Because Pierret is not a particularly well known brand, the seller provides some company history as well. Additionally, he provides links to further reputable online sources about the company so the potential buyers can further research Pierret saxophones for themselves.<\/li>\n
  3. Because this player is very experienced, and has first hand playing knowledge of other, more well known brands, he is able to compare his horn to others that potential buyers are more familiar with. <\/li>\n
  4. The seller provides a link to a YouTube video\u2014since removed\u2014of what they horn sounds like when he plays it. <\/li>\n
  5. The photos are clear, large, and show all of the instrument.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    BTW, this Pierret Vibrator alto sold for $1750 US on March 23, 2020. Yup, during the COVID-19 crisis. <\/p>\n

    How to make your online horn ad a really good one<\/h3>\n

    So to sum up, here are few tips to help you get top $$ for your horn online:<\/p>\n

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    • Clean your sax. Dust it, and clean the water spots off of it. Pledge on a dust cloth works well on water spots on lacquer horns. A silver polishing cloth does the job on silver horns. (You don’t necessarily have to polish your entire horn if it’s silver.) The main thing to remember is not to get any cleaning materials on your pads. That’s why you put the spray on the cloth first, an then use the cloth on your horn. \ud83d\ude09 <\/li>\n
    • Take good, clear<\/strong><\/em>, photos that show all sides of the horn. If the number of uploads are limited on the platform you are using, offer to send more to interested buyers. <\/li>\n
    • Make yourself available so that interested buyers can reach you. I am always amazed at buyers on eBay who cannot be reached during the auction. I always figure they must not be all that serious about selling their horns. <\/li>\n
    • Provide a good, clear, accurate<\/strong><\/em> description of what you’re selling. It’s always a good idea to provide links to sites so that people can do more research about a particular brand if it’s something other than the usual King, Martin, Buescher, Conn, or Selmer models. For example, my site is regularly cited on eBay ads for Hohner, D&J, Couf, Keilwerth, etc, etc for background info. <\/li>\n
    • Yes, spelling and punctuation matter. \ud83d\ude42 Use the spell and grammar check in your word processing program. \ud83d\ude42 <\/li>\n
    • Provide a case. <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      Given what’s going on in the world right now, things are rather topsy turvy. We have no idea what is going to sell and what isn’t. We have no idea what the economy is going to do. <\/p>\n

      That said, it only takes 1 interested person to buy your horn. Your job is to find that person, and when you do, to have your product (your horn) looking as appealing as possible, so that it might fetch the highest $$ amount possible.  <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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