{"id":52861,"date":"2023-05-19T11:32:03","date_gmt":"2023-05-19T18:32:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=52861"},"modified":"2023-07-06T11:52:52","modified_gmt":"2023-07-06T18:52:52","slug":"vintage-american-bass-saxes-resources","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2023\/vintage-american-bass-saxes-resources\/","title":{"rendered":"Vintage American Bass Saxes: Resources"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>Background<\/h3>\n<figure id=\"attachment_52863\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-52863\" style=\"width: 520px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"52863\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2023\/vintage-american-bass-saxes-resources\/bass_right\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?fit=1116%2C1988&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1116,1988\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"bass_right\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?fit=520%2C926&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-52863 size-large\" title=\"buescher bass cut out\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?resize=520%2C926&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"vintage bass saxophone, Buescher True Tone, silver sax, \" width=\"520\" height=\"926\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?resize=520%2C926&amp;ssl=1 520w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?resize=168%2C300&amp;ssl=1 168w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?resize=768%2C1368&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?resize=862%2C1536&amp;ssl=1 862w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/bass_right.png?w=1116&amp;ssl=1 1116w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 520px) 100vw, 520px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-52863\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Buescher True Tone bass #80XXX<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>When I first got my first bass saxophone in October 2000, things were A LOT different in the saxophone landscape:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The bass saxophone renaissance we are currently experiencing had not begun\u2014at all.<\/li>\n<li>The bass sax was still seen very much as an outlier in the saxophone world.<\/li>\n<li>If you wanted to play a bass saxophone, your choices were basically limited to a:\n<ul>\n<li>Vintage American horn like Buescher or Conn<\/li>\n<li>Vintage American style like Keilwerth<\/li>\n<li>Vintage French style like Beaugnier or Selmer<\/li>\n<li>New Keilwerth or Selmer.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<li>Julius Keilwerth and Selmer were the only real sources of new, modern, quality-made pro-model bass saxophones.<\/li>\n<li>Cheap, new bass saxophones made Chinese companies were not even on the horizon yet.<\/li>\n<li>The Internet was still a toddler.<\/li>\n<li>Social media was still in its infancy.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>When I flew to New Orleans <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/bass-sax-info\/where-i-bought-mine\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">to pick up my bass from Paul, Wayne, and Steve<\/a>, they all gave me great tips, and passed on information on how to tame the great beast that would be my<a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/07\/tickets.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> cabinmate back to Fredericton, NB<\/a>. They taught me the simple alternate fingerings to use to work around my Buescher&#8217;s tuning and venting quirks.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Prior to the Internet age, that is how bass saxophone players learned about the instrument: in real life. Sure, they might have spoken on the phone, written letters, or used whatever other means of communications existed at the time, but at the end of the day, musicians of all stripes shared their knowledge in person.<\/p>\n<p>Shortly after I got my bass I thought it would be handy to develop a bass sax resource site, and the first incarnation of Bassic Sax was born. At the same time, Paul Coats and Steve Weinart founded the Bass Sax Co-op.<\/p>\n<p>Over the past 22 years we have seen more and more bass sax resources pop up as the instrument has once again made its way into the <em>mainstream<\/em> of the saxophone world. (More on current bass sax resources below.)<\/p>\n<p>In the earliest stages of my foray into the online bass saxophone world, I received a number of emails and communications from other bass saxophone players who shared their knowledge and experience with me. Those early communications were very helpful, since they formed the earliest foundation of my bass sax education.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>A fingering chart for vintage American bass saxophones<\/h3>\n<p>This week I poured through 20+ years of electronic communications and my hard copy bass sax resources. This was all in an attempt to compile a fingering chart specific to vintage American-made bass saxophones\u2014this task was made infinitely more difficult since I no longer own my Buescher. \ud83d\ude09 &nbsp;Although the Couf-branded Keilwerth I now play is an American-style horn, it does play and respond very differently to the vintage\/antique Buescher.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Given the Couf\/Buescher differences, <strong>I just chose to put together all the fingerings I did use, as well as the others I didn&#8217;t necessarily use,<a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/05\/Bass-Sax-Fingering-Chart-done.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">&nbsp;into a PDF chart<\/a> and get you\u2014as players of vintage American bass saxophones\u2014to test them out and see what you think. Which ones work? Which don&#8217;t?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Just as importantly, if you have fingerings that you use that aren&#8217;t listed in this chart, please share them with me. Either via <a href=\"mailto:bassic.sax.info@gmail.com\">email<\/a> or as a comment below.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n<h3>Current bass saxophone resources<\/h3>\n<p>Although the Bass Sax Co-op is now just a fond, distant memory, \ud83d\ude25 there are many other bass saxophones resources that have appeared on the Net. Just <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=bass+saxophone&amp;rlz=1C1ONGR_enCA1045CA1045&amp;oq=bass+saxoph&amp;aqs=chrome.0.0i20i131i263i433i512j69i57j69i60l3j69i65l3.3599j0j4&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Googling bass saxophone<\/a> results in a dizzying amount of results. Quite different from back in the day when my site was only one of about three or four that would appear in search engine results. \ud83d\ude09&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>However, how many of these estimated 32,000,000 bass saxophone results are actually quality resources? That&#8217;s a good question. I would argue that most of them are mostly irrelevant. Like most of the time when searching for stuff on the Net, we now get so inundated with search results that we often forget what we were looking for to begin with&#8230; But I digress.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Depending on what you&#8217;re looking for of course, but if I had to narrow it down for you, here are the places on the Net I suggest you check out. These are the places were the actual bass sax players from around the world can be found:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/groups\/244169009093110\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bass Saxophone group<\/a> on Facebook. With over 3,000 members it really became the go-to site for bass saxophone players when the Bass Sax Co-op&#8217;s platform was no longer supported by Yahoo.<\/li>\n<li>On Sax on the Web&#8217;s Forum you have the following:\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.saxontheweb.net\/forums\/bb-bass.94\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bass Saxophone sub forum<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.saxontheweb.net\/forums\/soprano-bass-and-misc-mpc.83\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Mouthpiece discussion area<\/a><\/li>\n<li>And please, remember SOTW has a search feature. Enter whatever bass sax parameters you want. For <a href=\"https:\/\/www.saxontheweb.net\/search\/564728\/?q=bass+saxophone&amp;o=relevance\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this example, I just entered bass sax<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>And just like with the fingering chart, if you have other bass saxophone resources that you frequent and you believe would be helpful for others to know about, please leave a comment, or <a href=\"mailto:bassic.sax.info@gmail.com\">send me an email<\/a>. Thank you!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Background When I first got my first bass saxophone in October 2000, things were A LOT different in the saxophone landscape: The bass saxophone renaissance &hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":52971,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[6],"tags":[188,150,619,67,640,638,522,658,743,646,644,141,654,705,643,31,136],"class_list":["post-52861","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bass-saxophone","tag-alternate-fingerings","tag-american-saxophones","tag-bass-saxophone","tag-bass-saxophone-co-op","tag-buescher","tag-conn","tag-fingering-charts","tag-holton","tag-new-wonder","tag-on-line-resources","tag-photos","tag-sax-on-the-web","tag-technology","tag-true-tone","tag-vintage-horns","tag-vintage-sax","tag-vintage-sax-resources"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 5.0.5 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Bassic Sax started out as a bass sax resource site. 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