{"id":6169,"date":"2009-03-26T09:53:53","date_gmt":"2009-03-26T17:53:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=6169"},"modified":"2009-12-27T10:12:51","modified_gmt":"2009-12-27T18:12:51","slug":"rico-royal-metalite-baritone-chamber-facing-info","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/rico-royal-metalite-baritone-chamber-facing-info\/","title":{"rendered":"Rico Royal Metalite Baritone Chamber &#038; Facing Info"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Over the past few years, interest in the <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=483\" target=\"_self\">Rico Royal Metalite mouthpieces<\/a>, especially those for baritone saxophone, has not waned.\u00a0These\u00a0initially low-cost mouthpieces, which retailed for well under $20, now command prices in excess of $100 on eBay, and other on-line sites.<\/p>\n<p>A while ago a seller of a bari Metalite piece, included a photo of the chamber &amp; facing chart on the outside of the original box, in their eBay ad. I found the information very interesting&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><a rel=\"attachment wp-att-6170\" href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/metalite-faching-chart.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6170\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/rico-royal-metalite-baritone-chamber-facing-info\/metalite-faching-chart\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/metalite-faching-chart.jpg?fit=400%2C306&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"400,306\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"metalite-faching-chart\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/metalite-faching-chart.jpg?fit=400%2C306&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6170\" title=\"metalite-faching-chart\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/metalite-faching-chart.jpg?resize=400%2C306\" alt=\"metalite-faching-chart\" width=\"400\" height=\"306\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/metalite-faching-chart.jpg?w=400&amp;ssl=1 400w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/metalite-faching-chart.jpg?resize=300%2C229&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source: eBay.com<\/h6>\n<p>The Metalite&#8217;s\u00a02 &#8220;new&#8221; tip openings of M9 &amp; M11, that <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=644\" target=\"_self\">Arnold Brilhart mentioned<\/a> in his interview with the the <em>Saxophone Journal<\/em>, are\u00a0shown as .120&#8243;\u00a0&amp; .130&#8243; respectively. Now I don&#8217;t know about you, but I&#8217;m a pretty solid bari player,\u00a0and I have a hard time with a .130&#8243; tip opening.<\/p>\n<p>As a matter of fact, I did find a new-old-stock M11 in a music store a number of years ago. I\u00a0bought\u00a0the piece\u00a0for about $15 Cdn. Only problem was I didn&#8217;t have my horn on me, so I couldn&#8217;t\u00a0try it. When I got it home, I found couldn&#8217;t play it.<\/p>\n<p>I ended up trading it with another <a href=\"http:\/\/www.saxontheweb.net\/vbulletin\/index.php\" target=\"_blank\">SOTW<\/a> member for his M5, but he couldn&#8217;t play\u00a0the M11\u00a0either. It ended up getting traded again. I eventually lost track of\u00a0\u00a0the piece, but it\u00a0was traded a number of times on the site. All the guys who got it, found it was too open for them. I remember thinking:\u00a0Wow, who the hell was this piece built for?<\/p>\n<p>Although Rico stopped making\u00a0Metalites years ago, they do still manufacture <a href=\"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/?p=468\" target=\"_self\">the Graftonite\u00a0pieces<\/a>.\u00a0Interestingly enough however, for the Graftonites, the selection is somewhat different. They come in one smaller tip opening than the Metalites did, and max out at .110&#8243;:<\/p>\n<table border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">\u00a0<\/td>\n<td width=\"133\" valign=\"top\">Facing<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">Tip<\/td>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">Chamber<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">Tone<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">B3<\/td>\n<td width=\"133\" valign=\"top\">2.29 mm<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">.090&#8243;<\/td>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">Med<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">All-round<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">B5<\/td>\n<td width=\"133\" valign=\"top\">2.54 mm<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">.100&#8243;<\/td>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">Med<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">All-round<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">B7<\/td>\n<td width=\"133\" valign=\"top\">2.79 mm<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">.110&#8243;<\/td>\n<td width=\"124\" valign=\"top\">Med<\/td>\n<td width=\"128\" valign=\"top\">All-round<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h6>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Source:\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.doctorsax.biz\/musical%20instruments\/mouthpieces\/graftonite.htm\" target=\"_blank\">doctorsax.biz<\/a>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/h6>\n<p>I guess the Metalites were manufactured for a different type of baritone saxophone player. Bari players who would chose these pieces, were generally not wall flowers.\u00a0<a rel=\"attachment wp-att-6555\" href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/laughing-smiley.gif\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"6555\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/2009\/rico-royal-metalite-baritone-chamber-facing-info\/laughing-smiley-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/laughing-smiley.gif?fit=15%2C15&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"15,15\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-title=\"laughing-smiley\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/laughing-smiley.gif?fit=15%2C15&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6555\" title=\"laughing-smiley\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/laughing-smiley.gif?resize=15%2C15\" alt=\"laughing-smiley\" width=\"15\" height=\"15\" \/><\/a>\u00a0\u00a0So I guess the thinking was that they would have some seriously developed chops, and would want &amp; appreciate having big tip openings like .120&#8243; &amp; .130&#8243;. In reality, you would really have to &#8220;man up&#8221; to be able to play them. \ud83d\ude00<\/p>\n<p>I love my M5, and wouldn&#8217;t ever trade it. I also love my B5, and really like the differences between the 2 pieces.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t know if the new Graftonites are as good as the old ones. 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