{"id":9943,"date":"2019-09-03T10:38:20","date_gmt":"2019-09-03T17:38:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/?page_id=9943"},"modified":"2025-09-04T13:47:00","modified_gmt":"2025-09-04T20:47:00","slug":"couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Couf Sopranos: Superba I vs. Superba II"},"content":{"rendered":"<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%;\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 33.3333%;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/2\/\">Superba I \u00bb<\/a><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.3333%;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/3\/\">Superba II \u00bb<\/a><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 33.3333%;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">H. Couf Serial # Chart<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<figure id=\"attachment_10483\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10483\" style=\"width: 497px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?ssl=1\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"10483\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/coufs1sop84k-25\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?fit=1060%2C1600&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1060,1600\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"CoufS1Sop84k-25\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Superba I Soprano # 84911  Source: getasax.com&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?fit=199%2C300&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?fit=678%2C1024&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"wp-image-10483\" title=\"superba sop 84911\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?resize=497%2C750&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"soprano saxophone, vintage German sax, H. Couf Superba I soprano sax, Julius Keilwerth saxophone, stencil sax, \" width=\"497\" height=\"750\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?resize=678%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 678w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?resize=199%2C300&amp;ssl=1 199w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?resize=768%2C1159&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?resize=99%2C150&amp;ssl=1 99w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/CoufS1Sop84k-25.jpg?w=1060&amp;ssl=1 1060w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 497px) 100vw, 497px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10483\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Superba I Soprano # 84911 Source: getasax.com<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h5>Updated in 2025<\/h5>\n<p>What really are the differences between the Superba I and Superba II Couf soprano saxophones? The short answer is not as much as you might think, but it all depends on when an individual horn was made.<\/p>\n<p>H. Couf Superba I sopranos did undergo changes over the approximately 22 years that they were produced, while Superba IIs apparently remained constant in their design. Regardless of which model however, their relation to Keilwerth is extremely evident\u2014as will be illustrated below.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>A quick disclaimer<\/h2>\n<p>Unlike some brands like Selmer\u2014that have had their soprano saxophone designs very well documented over certain periods of time\u2014very little is known at this point about the H. Couf saxophone\u2019s design changes. To the best of my knowledge, the research I have gathered here is the first real attempt at collating relatively large amounts of data about this J. Keilwerth-made saxophone brand.<\/p>\n<p>However, there are a number of limitations with this data: 1. The data gathered is based only on what can be seen in photos I have managed to find scattered across the Internet\u2014or in a very few cases in person. 2. The quality and quantity of photos is often very limited for each instrument (sample). 3. Any changes not visible to the naked eye\u2014such as bore dimensions for example\u2014are obviously not known. 4. In some cases the sample sizes that I have been able to gather to date are so small, that I haven\u2019t been able to conclusively draw any conclusions.<\/p>\n<p>For all these reasons this page continues to be a work in progress. Over time, my hope is to fill in the missing blanks. If you can help in some way, please do not hesitate to&nbsp;<a href=\"mailto:bassic.sax.info@gmail.com\">drop me a note<\/a>. Thanks!<\/p>\n<h2>What does the term \u201cintermediate\u201d mean in Couf&nbsp;<em>speak<\/em>?<\/h2>\n<p>Herb Couf said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There were three levels of H. Couf saxophones; Superba I, the professional line\u2026. Superba II the intermediate line with many of the same features as the Superba I\u2026<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt;\">Source: &nbsp;<em>Saxophone: Ein Kompendium<\/em>, Uwe Ladwig. Second Edition, 2012. p. 59<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That said, \u201cintermediate\u201d does not mean inferior, and not up to pro standards. The Superba II were built to the same level of precision that their Superba I cousins were. All intermediate means in this case, is that a few minor things were different. At its core, a Superba II is still a JK soprano. Full stop.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>With all that in mind, it\u2019s time to take a closer look at what makes a I a I, and a II a II.<\/p>\n<h2>A quick and dirty overview chart of the differences between the Superba 1 &amp; 2 soprano saxophones<\/h2>\n<p>Why is this quick and dirty? Because it doesn\u2019t account for the various exceptions to the features outlined in it\u2014and there are quite a few. These exceptions, and much, much more, are gone over in minute detail in the following Superba 1 &amp; 2 pages. So think of this chart as a primer, or a review, if you\u2019re looking for a simple broad strokes listing of what changed when.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Unlike their alto, tenor, and bari cousins, these smaller Keilwerth-made horns had much fewer updates, therefore phases. To put the following table in context, this is what I&#8217;ve found:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<h6>The Superba I soprano had 3 phases that I have been able to track.<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<h6>The Superba II had only 1 phase. Its features did not change over its production cycle.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/h6>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 id=\"tablepress-36-name\" class=\"tablepress-table-name tablepress-table-name-id-36\">Superba I vs Superba II Sopranos<\/h2>\n\n<table id=\"tablepress-36\" class=\"tablepress tablepress-id-36 mtr-table mtr-thead-th\" aria-labelledby=\"tablepress-36-name\">\n<thead>\n<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t<th class=\"column-1 mtr-th-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Feature<\/strong><\/div><\/th><th class=\"column-2 mtr-th-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Superba I<\/div><\/th><th class=\"column-3 mtr-th-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Superba II<\/div><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody class=\"row-striping row-hover\">\n<tr class=\"row-2\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>G# Key<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: black plastic. Phase 2-3: MOP<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Black plastic<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-3\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>MOP Keys<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: Smaller button inset within brass \"cup\". Metal edges encircle the pearls. Phase 2-3: Larger, without metal edges. (Like what`s now on the SX90.)<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Smaller button inset within brass \"cup\". Metal edges encircle the pearls.<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-4\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Left palm keys<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: Mark VI style. Phase 2-3: arched.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Mark VI style<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-5\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>High D, Eb, F tone holes<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: Inline on front of body tube. Phase 2-3: Side of body tube.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Inline on front of body tube.<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-6\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>LH table keys<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1-2: Pinkie cluster attached to rods at the back of the keys. Phase 3: Pinkie cluster attached to rods at the front of the keys.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Pinkie cluster attached to rods at the back of the keys.<br>\n<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-7\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Bell keys<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1-2: On top of bell. (Because of above ^^) Phase 3: Side of bell<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">On top of bell. (Because of above ^^)<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-8\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Right pinkie keys<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1 &amp; 2: Old-school JK style. Phase 3: \"New\", rounder JK style.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Old-school JK style.<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-9\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Front F key<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1-2: No. Phase 3: Yes. <\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">No<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-10\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>High F# key<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: No. Phase 2-3: Yes.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">No<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-11\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Chromatic F#<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: MOP button. Phase 2: Sliver-shaped. Phase 3: MOP button.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Sliver-shaped<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-12\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Right thumb rest<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: unknown. Phase 2 until circa 84xxx: fixed metal. Phase 2 84894 &amp; onwards thru Phase 3: fixed black plastic.<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Fixed metal<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-13\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Strap ring<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1: unknown. Phase 2: No. Phase 3: Yes. <\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">No<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-14\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Lyre holder<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Phase 1-2: Front, just above bell keys. Phase 3: Back, above right thumb rest<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Front, just above bell keys.<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-15\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Feature\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><strong>Tone holes<\/strong><\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-2 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba I\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Straight<\/div><\/td><td class=\"column-3 mtr-td-tag\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">Straight<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%;\" class=\"mtr-table mtr-tr-td\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Features on all Superba I\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#all\">Features on all Superba I<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Phase 1 Sopranos\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#phase1\">Phase 1 Sopranos<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Phase 2 Sopranos\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#phase2\">Phase 2 Sopranos<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Phase 3 Sopranos\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#phase3\">Phase 3 Sopranos<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Exceptions\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#exceptions\">Exceptions<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Features on all Superba I\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/\">\u00ab Back to Overview<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Phase 1 Sopranos\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/3\/\">Superba II \u00bb<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Phase 2 Sopranos\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">H. Couf Serial # Chart<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Phase 3 Sopranos\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">\u00a0<\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Exceptions\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">\u00a0<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h2>Superba I Soprano<\/h2>\n<p>I have found that the Superba I soprano has 3<strong>&nbsp;phases<\/strong> based on visual characteristics. These 3 phases are described and illustrated below. Additionally however, there are also some features that the Superba I had over its entire 20+ year production cycle at Keilwerth. Those will be illustrated first.<a id=\"all\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Features common over the entire production run<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/s-l16002.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Post to body construction<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/Couf-Superba-1-Soprano-81332-19-scaled-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Straight tone holes<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/84905-2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Hand engraving<\/a> <a id=\"phase1\"><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h3>Phase 1 \u2013 features<\/h3>\n<p>Prior to this update in 2025, I was very unsure about this phase of horns\u2014or if it even existed. The problem for me is that I haven&#8217;t been able to find more than 1 example of this early style of Superba I. If it weren&#8217;t for all the research done by my colleague Steve Sklar, I might have written it off entirely. However, I recently obtained some more photos of this early Superba I which tip the scales a bit more in its favour.<\/p>\n<p>This very early Superba I is almost identical to the Superba II sopranos\u2014except for its left thumb rest and chromatic F# key.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>That said, I really do need some more really early Phase 1 examples to cement its details. If you have an early Superba I H. Couf soprano, please <a href=\"mailto:bassic.sax.info@gmail.com\">reach out to me<\/a>. I could really use some photos and details. Thank you!<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Black plastic G# key touch<\/li>\n<li>MOP key touches are smaller, with button inset within brass &#8220;cup&#8221;. Metal edges encircle the pearls.<\/li>\n<li>MOP left thumb rest<\/li>\n<li>Mark VI style left palm keys.<\/li>\n<li>High D, Eb, F tone holes are inline, and on the front of the body tube\u2014also like on the Mark VI<\/li>\n<li>Left pinkie cluster attached to rods at the back of the keys<\/li>\n<li>Bell keys on the top of the body tube<\/li>\n<li>Right pinkie keys old-school JK-style<\/li>\n<li>No high F#<\/li>\n<li>No front F<\/li>\n<li>Chromatic F# a MOP button<\/li>\n<li>Lyre holder on the front, just above bell keys.<\/li>\n<li>Latest (only) <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">serial #<\/a> seen to date: 76915<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Defining features for Phase 1 soprano<\/h4>\n<ol>\n<li>Black plastic G# key touch<\/li>\n<li>MOP key touches are smaller, with button inset within brass &#8220;cup&#8221;. Metal edges encircle the pearls.<\/li>\n<li>MOP left thumb rest<\/li>\n<li>Flat left palm keys<\/li>\n<li>High D, Eb, F tone holes are inline, and on the front of the body tube<\/li>\n<li>No high F#<\/li>\n<li>Chromatic F# a MOP button<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h5>Superba I #76915 \u2013 Lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_0_placeholder\n<h3><a id=\"phase2\"><\/a>Phase 2 \u2013 features&nbsp;<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>MOP G# key touch<\/li>\n<li>MOP key touches are larger, without metal edges. (Like what`s now on the SX90.)<\/li>\n<li>Black plastic left thumb rest<\/li>\n<li>Arched left palm keys<\/li>\n<li>High D, Eb, F keys are on the side of the body tube<\/li>\n<li>Left pinkie cluster attached to rods at the back of the keys<\/li>\n<li>Right pinkie keys old-school JK-style<\/li>\n<li>High F# present<\/li>\n<li>Sliver-shaped chromatic F# key<\/li>\n<li>Fixed metal right thumb rest until circa #84000 <a href=\"#thumbrest\">*<\/a><\/li>\n<li>Circa #84000+ right thumb rest is replaced with fixed black one that remains for rest of the Superba I run<\/li>\n<li>Lyre holder on the front, just above bell keys.<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">Serial # range<\/a> seen to date: 80896 &#8211; 88856<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>NB: # 80896 is a horn that has A LOT of exceptions. <a href=\"#sop80896\">It is discussed separately below<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h4>Defining features for Phase 2 soprano<\/h4>\n<p>The Superba I was totally redesigned and lost most of its Superba II look when this first evolution of the model was released. <strong>Phase 2 Superba I sopranos by far and away make up the majority of horns you see on the market today.<\/strong> These are the features that will help you ID the Phase 2:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>MOP G# key touch<\/li>\n<li>MOP key touches are larger, without metal edges. (Like what`s now on the SX90.)<\/li>\n<li>Black plastic left thumb rest<\/li>\n<li>Arched left palm keys<\/li>\n<li>High D, Eb, F keys are on the side of the body tube<\/li>\n<li>High F# present<\/li>\n<li>Sliver-shaped chromatic F# key<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h5>Superba I # 81332 \u2013 Lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_1_placeholder\n<h5>Superba I # 84905 \u2013 Black Gold<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_2_placeholder\n<h4><a id=\"sop80896\"><\/a>A Phase 2 Superba I that is nothing but exceptions<\/h4>\n<p>This Phase 2 is the earliest I have seen, but has features that quite frankly make no sense. A while ago Brian had obtained a lot of items that belonged to Herb Couf himself\u2014including this <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/07\/Couf-Superba-1-Alto-High-G-51363-28-scaled-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">prototype Superba I alto with a high G key<\/a>\u2014so I have to wonder if this soprano didn&#8217;t have a similar backstory. This whole thing looks like a prototype.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Whatever the case, this soprano is the earliest Phase 2 I have seen, and has features that either: A. Weren&#8217;t seen on sopranos until much later, or B. Were never seen on sopranos at all.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Front F key (not seen until Phase 3), but the over sized button key seen here was never used.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<li>Black plastic right thumb rest (becomes standard circa 84xxx)<\/li>\n<li>Strap ring (not seen until Phase 3), but its style was never used. This style is the one used on Superba I horns. For the Phase 3 sopranos <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/01\/Couf-Superba-1-Soprano-91912-19.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">a simple ring<\/a> is used.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h5>Superba I # 80896 &#8211; lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_3_placeholder\n<h3><a id=\"phase3\"><\/a>Phase 3 \u2013 features<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Identical to the post-84xxx Superba I sopranos, but with some additions<\/li>\n<li>Left pinkie cluster attached to rods at the front of the keys<\/li>\n<li>Bell keys are on the side of the bell<\/li>\n<li>Right pinkie keys are now rounder in shape, and look like what&#8217;s on the modern Keilwerths<\/li>\n<li>Front F key present<\/li>\n<li>Chromatic F# key is MOP button<\/li>\n<li>Strap ring is present<\/li>\n<li>Lyre holder has been moved to the back of the body tube above the right thumb rest<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">Serial # range<\/a> seen to date: 91646 &#8211; 91912<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h4>Defining features for Phase 3 soprano<\/h4>\n<p>In the late 1980s, the Keilwerth company introduced their SX90 sopranos, and this roughly corresponds with the last phase we see of the Superba I. From what I have seen in researching this brand for years, very few of this phase was made, since right after their introduction Couf had Keilwerth stop production of all Superba model saxophones.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>These Phase 3 Superba I sopranos are by far and away the most advanced, and have the most features of any Couf soprano. They are easily identifiable through their unique features including:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The left pinkie cluster rods are attached to the front of the keys rather than the back.<\/li>\n<li>Bell keys are on the side, rather than the top of the bell. (Because of #1.)<\/li>\n<li>Right pinkie keys now have the rounder, modern JK shape.<\/li>\n<li>There is now a front F key.<\/li>\n<li>The chromatic F# is an oversize MOP button like the rest of the key touches<\/li>\n<li>A strap ring has been added<\/li>\n<li>The lyre holder has been moved to the back of the body tube from the front.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<h5>Superba I # 91646 \u2013 Lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_4_placeholder\n<h5>Superba I # 91912 \u2013 Lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_5_placeholder\n<hr>\n<h3><a id=\"exceptions\"><\/a>NB: Of course there have to be exceptions. Here are the ones I have found to date:<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>#80896 may have been a prototype. It is <a href=\"#sop80896\">discussed separately under Phase 2<\/a>. <a id=\"thumbrest\"><\/a><\/li>\n<li># 83956 has an adjustable metal thumb rest. Presumably aftermarket.&nbsp;<\/li>\n<li>Multiple Phase 2 Superba I sopranos I catalogued have had strap rings added over the years including #s: 83956, 84911, 84xxx, &amp; 85783.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><!--nextpage--><\/p>\n<table style=\"border-collapse: collapse; width: 100%;\" class=\"mtr-table mtr-tr-td\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Similarities to Phase 1 Superba I\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#similarities\">Similarities to Phase 1 Superba I<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II Features\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#features\">Superba II Features<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Horns with Additions\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#additions\">Horns with Additions<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Thanks\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"#thanks\">Thanks<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"\u00ab Back to Overview\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/\">\u00ab Back to Overview<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Similarities to Phase 1 Superba I\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/2\/\">\u00ab Superba I<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Superba II Features\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">H. Couf Serial # Chart<\/a><\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Horns with Additions\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">\u00a0<\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"Thanks\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">\u00a0<\/div><\/td>\n<td style=\"width: 20%;\" data-mtr-content=\"\u00ab Back to Overview\" class=\"mtr-td-tag\"><div class=\"mtr-cell-content\">\u00a0<\/div><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h2>Superba II Soprano<\/h2>\n<p>Unlike the Superba I, the Superba II soprano saxophones did not undergo any evolutions during the 22 or so years that Herb Couf had his saxophones produced by the Julius Keilwerth company in Germany. Other than the rare horn with a different finish\u2014and a few with the occasional aftermarket part<a href=\"#addons\">*<\/a>\u2014all the Superba II sopranos I catalogued were identical. <a id=\"similarities\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Similarities to Phase 1 Superba I<\/h3>\n<p>If you compare the following features to those of the <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/couf-sopranos-superba-i-vs-superba-ii\/2\/#phase1\">Phase 1 Superba I<\/a>, you&#8217;ll notice that with the exception the MOP <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/76915CoufSoprano5.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">left thumb rest<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/76915CoufSoprano1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">chromatic F# key<\/a> on the Superba I, the 2 models are pretty much identical.<a id=\"features\"><\/a><\/p>\n<h3>Superba II \u2013 features<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Black plastic G# key touch<\/li>\n<li>MOP key touches are smaller, with button inset within brass \u201ccup\u201d. Metal edges encircle the pearls.<\/li>\n<li>Black plastic left thumb rest<\/li>\n<li>Mark VI style left palm keys.<\/li>\n<li>High D, Eb, F tone holes are inline, and on the front of the body tube\u2014also like on the Mark VI<\/li>\n<li>Left pinkie cluster attached to rods at the back of the keys<\/li>\n<li>Bell keys on the top of the body tube<\/li>\n<li>Right pinkie keys old-school JK-style<\/li>\n<li>No high F#<\/li>\n<li>No front F<\/li>\n<li>Sliver-shaped chromatic F# key<\/li>\n<li>Fixed metal right thumb rest<\/li>\n<li>Lyre holder on the front, just above bell keys.<\/li>\n<li>Straight tone holes<\/li>\n<li>Post to body construction<\/li>\n<li>Hand engraving<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/bassic-sax.info\/version5\/vintage-saxes\/european-made-saxes\/h-couf\/4\/#serials\">Serial # range<\/a> seen to date: 64031 &#8211; 80587<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h5>Superba II # 64031 \u2013 Lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_6_placeholder\n<h5>Superba II # 76940 \u2013 Lacquer<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_7_placeholder\n<h5>Superba II # 78937 \u2013 Blackgold<\/h5>\nngg_shortcode_8_placeholder\n<h4><a id=\"additions\"><\/a>Horns with additions<a id=\"addons\"><\/a><\/h4>\n<ul>\n<li>#&#8217;s 76919 &amp; 79847 had aftermarket strap rings installed.<a id=\"thanks\"><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Many thanks go to the following people:<\/h2>\n<p>I want to acknowledge the incredible work done by&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.woodwindforum.com\/clarinetperfection\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Steve Sklar<\/a>. Steve has been researching and writing about H. Couf saxophones for years before I came along. By generously allowing me to springboard off his materials, Steve has saved me countless of hours.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you Steve. You are a great colleague, and I very much appreciate and enjoy our work together on the Woodwind Forum!<\/p>\n<p>I also want to thank Brian at&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.getasax.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Get A Sax<\/a>, Paul from <a href=\"https:\/\/pmwoodwind.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">PM Woodwind<\/a>, Roberto from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.robertoswinds.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Robertos Winds<\/a>, Mark from&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/usahorn.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">USA Horn<\/a>, as well as Chadd from&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/worldwidesax.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">World Wide Sax<\/a>, for allowing me to use their images throughout all these H. Couf saxophone pages. Beautiful images are&nbsp;vital to illustrating the beautiful horns that Herb Couf helped the Julius Keilwerth Company design.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Superba I \u00bb Superba II \u00bb H. 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