B&S blue label sax serials & features
B&S blue label sax serials & features

B&S blue label sax serials & features

B&S, blue label sax, alto sax, bell to body support brace, B&S logo on blue enamel oval, gold lacquer saxophone with nickel plated keys
Bell to body support brace of blue label alto # 2057. This appears to be one of the modified horns with the new bell and bow. Source: bluejob469 on eBay.co.uk

It is hard to believe that I have been gathering data on B&S “blue label” saxophones for nearly a decade. That’s crazy! Therefore, it is not surprising that over the past few years more information has become available, and it is time to update my B&S pages on my website.

Through the painstaking work of people at the Musikinstrumenten-Museums Markneukirchen, and through my colleague, Uwe Ladwig, all kids of data regarding the pre-unification horns has come to light. Some of the most interesting information that has recently been published in German sources about these “blue label” horns, involves the number of different models, as well as the evolution of these models.

Something I noticed from the beginning of data gathering

Since I began tracking serial numbers and features of B&S saxophones, I noticed we had quite different features on horns very close in serial number. This led me to speculate if we had a step-up grade of “blue label” horn—although nothing in the published materials indicated that was the case.

It turns out that B&S changed the B&S “blue label” horns in 1985, and gave them them new bells and bows.1 Additionally, serial numbers on the alto and tenor were restarted at 1001 and 1067 respectively. (No word on what happened with the baritones.) 

Apparently, this is why some serial numbers are duplicated—e.g. I have recorded tenor # 2376 twice, but they are different horns. Furthermore, instruments that were still in stock, were updated with the new bells and bows, but their serial numbers were kept original.2

All of these peculiarities will be explored in detail when I finish with the rest of my research, and update the B&S pages of my site. I will post an update to this article when I have it completed.  

B&S “blue label” saxes: serials and features presented in tables 

Since the beginning I had gathered all the data I collected on Excel spread sheets. That made it difficult to share. After a recent discussion with some players on SOTW, I decided it was time to dust off the charts, and see about getting it up for everyone to take a look at. 

Enter the following 4 tables you see below. Soprano, alto, tenor, and baritone saxophones each have their own table. These tables are not finished. At this point the data was just copied over from my Excel charts. 

Note: Pressing the + sign inside the circle will show further info on specific horns.

I haven’t quite figured out yet how each of these horns will be described. I still need to finish researching all the German sources I have, and I need to correspond with Uwe a bit to tie up any loose ends. But at least these searchable tables are a start. 

At the time of writing, 269 horns (SATB) are represented in these tables. Why so few after nearly a decade of searching? For a number of reasons, mainly though, for this to work really well, I need serial numbers on horns, and not all sellers provide them. Also, many times the photos are not plentiful enough, or are of such poor quality, that I can’t find enough of the features I’m looking for to make the horn worth entering into the database. This is where you come in… 

B&S blue label census: count your horn in!

If you have a B&S blue, or gold label saxophone, and you would like to contribute to my research efforts, that would be greatly appreciated!

These are the specs I’m looking for:

For all saxophones:

  • Serial # (first 3 numbers are fine)
  • finish (clear lacquer with nickel keys; gold lacquer with nickel keys; silver plate; or nickel plate)
  • chromatic f# sharp key shape (diamond horizontal or upright rectangular)
  • thumb rest type (fixed metal or adjustable metal or adjustable plastic)
  • type of tone holes (straight or rolled; drawn or soldered)
  • “Made in” stamping reads: G.D.R.; G.D.R. and R.D.A.; D.D.R.; other? What is it?

Additional data for alto, tenor, and baritones:

You can send the above data to me via email. If you are interested in contributing your horn to the B&S gallery, I’m happy to accept photo contributions as well, but that is certainly not necessary.

I want thank SOTW members megwenda and logdrum for prompting me to get going on this rather-overdue work.


1 Faszination Saxophon: DerSaxophonbau Auf Deutschprachigem Gebiet, First edition 2016, Günter Dullat, p. 253.
Ibid


B&S Soprano Saxophones

B&S "blue label" sopranos.
SopranoStars in Bell EngravingFinishChromatic F# Key ShapeThumb RestToneholesMade In StampingNotes
1046silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
1112silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
11260silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
11960silverstraightMade In GDR
12010silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
12520silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
12920silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
14760silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade in GDR
15080silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
15950silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
16220silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
1638silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
19440silver platedhorizontal teardropstraightMade In GDR
19610silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
19920silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
21000lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
23700silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
23770silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade in GDR
2896silverhorizontal teardropstraightMade In GDR
29270silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
3126silver platedhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
32810silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
3364silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
3369silverhorizontal teardropfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
37290gold lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropstraight
3781gold lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropfixed metalstraight
38542silver platedupright rectanglarfixed metalstraight
4162silver platedupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
41892silver platedupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
42372silver platedupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
43752gold lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade In GDR
43821silverupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade In GDRThere is only 1 star in the pic. It is on the right side of of the S in B&S. The photo is a bit blurry so the other might have been buffed out, photo-shopped out, or never have been there at all.
45270gold lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglar
45730lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade in GDRStencil horn marked: Kawai by B&S
45890lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularfixed metalstraightMade in GDRStencil horn marked: Kawai by B&S
4689silverupright rectanglarfixed metalstraight
46XXgold lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglarfixed metalstraight
47672?gold lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightIt was hard to say for sure if there were 2 stars since the pic was so shitty, but most likely there were
50812gold lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglarfixed metalstraight
51162silver platedupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade in GDR
54302lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade in GDR
55272lacquerupright rectangularfixed metalstraight Made in Germanytransitional?
56042?Lacquer with nickel plated keys?upright rectanglarfixed metalstraightProbably 2, but only 1 is shown. The pics are crap. You couldn't even tell what kind of finish it had for sure the photos were so bad. The only reason I catalogued it was that I hadn't seen a soprano with this high a serial # before
057402lacquerupright rectanglarfixed metalstraightMade In Germanytransitional
018582lacquerupright rectanglaradjustable plasticstraightMade In Germanytransitional
0023012lacquerupright rectanglaradjustable plasticstraightMade In Germanytransitional

B&S Alto Saxophones

B&S "blue label" alto saxophones
AltoStars in Bell EngravingLogo ColourFinishChromatic F# Key ShapeHigh F# Key ShapeThumb RestToneholesC# key Guard Y/NClothes Guard Y/NBell to Body Brace Fastening on BellMade In StampingNotes
01XX2blueclear lacquer/ relac?upright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightnyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GermanyI suspect that this horn was made shortly before the company discontinued the blue label line. Note the serial #. This was the new serial # convention. It is also the new finish option.

I call this a "transitional" horn as the company switched from a VEB to a GmbH
13060blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer style
13150bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondHorn built sans high F# key.
14000bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizonal diamondMade in GermanyHorn built sans F# key.

The "made in" stamping on bell to bow connecting ring.
1711blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnNhorizontal diamond
17550bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnyelongated Selmer-styleMade In GDR
1783bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamond
1922kawai blue & whitelacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated Selmer-styleMade in GDRStencil horn Kawai
2XXX0bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamond
2062bluenickel platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamond
23610bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade In GDRStamped in the bell to bow connecting ring
24330bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondNot stamped below serial #. The bell to body support bell is covered in some kind of white material. Can't see if it is stamped there.
25550bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
25990bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
25800blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDRStencil horn Kawai.

The post for the clothes guard were present, but the guard itself was missing.
26880bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
27090bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
27770bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
28410bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnMade in GDR
2994blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
30490bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
31550bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
3158bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
3159bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
3173bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
31XX0bluenickel platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhorizontal diamond
34240bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
3663bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
37290bluedelacquered with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
38300bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
393Xbluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
4XXX2blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer styleFabriqué en R.D.A. Made in GDR
40080bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade In GDR
40800bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
4086bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
4091bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
41370bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
41722bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer styleFabriqué en R.D.A. Made in GDR
41950bluenickel platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
448X0goldclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongate, Selmer styleThere is evidence of blue paint on the gold bell to body brace logo.
45330bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
46120bluelacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated Selmer-style
49190bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated Selmer-styleMade in GDR
5089bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
5299bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightnyelongated, Selmer-style
5400bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
55XXblueclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightnyelongated, Selmer-style G.D.R.
5657bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
60150bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamond
60712bluelacquer with lacquered keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightnyelongated, Selmer styleMade In GermanyThis almost looks likes a transitional, but is lacking the "0" in front of the 6.
60850bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
60XX0bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamond
61740bluegold lacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
62470bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade In GDR
62700bluelacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
6563blueblue epoxy (lacquer?) with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDRBlue lfinish was partially removed to expose bare brass below. Seller claimed it was the original finish.

69020bluegold lacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDRHas additional stamping 24/8 just above the Made In stamp
7524blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
7525bluedelacquered body with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metal straightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
78490bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
7977bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade In GDR
83590bluegold lacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhorizontal diamondFabriqué en R.D.A. Made in GDR
85230blue/goldsilver platedhorizontal rectangularupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDRBlue label on left side, gold on right
87810bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondNot stamped below serial #. No shot of bell to bow connecting ring, so can't see if it is stamped there
88030blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
88260blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
8840blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
8926bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
89350goldsilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR
90830blue/goldsilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDRGold on right side, blue on left
9327bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDRPhoto is not great. Could be 9927, but looks more like 93 than 99.
9940bluenickel platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDRHas black key touches and black buttons on the low Bb, B, & C key guards. Most likely aftermarket.
?bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamond
?bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhoriztonal diamond
?goldsilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightnnelongated, Selmer-style
?blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
?0bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropnone presentfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamond
?bluedark honey gold lacquerupright rectangularupright rectangularadustable plasticstraightnyelongated, Selmer style
?bluedark honey gold lacquerupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightnyelongated, Selmer styleAccording to seller, this horn was made in Dec 1977. He got this info in an email from the museum in Markneukirchen.

B&S Tenor Saxophones

B&S "blue label" tenor saxes
TenorStars in Bell EngravingLogo ColourFinishChromatic F# Key ShapeHigh F# Key ShapeThumb RestToneholesC# key Guard Y/NClothes Guard Y/NBell to Body Brace Fastening on BellMade In StampingNotes
1014bluegold lacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropn/afixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GermanyHorn has no high F#.
"made in" stamped on bell to bow connecting ring
10870bluesilver plated with gold wash bellhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GermanyFor sale again in April 2016. This time the flaking gold wash bell had been stripped and it was only a silver plated horn. Was the gold wash aftermarket to begin with?

The "made in" is stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring.
1093bluesilver plated with gold wash bellhorizontal teardropn/afixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondThe "made in" is stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring.
1147bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GermanyThe "made in" is stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring.
1270bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
1559lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
15650bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GermanyThe "made in" is stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring.
15990bluelacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDRThis horn was dead mint. Still had the original MP, neck strap. Seller claimed it was from 1986. I am starting to wonder if B&S went back to the beginning with their serials?
16310bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropn/afixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
1654goldsilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-style Made in GDR
17080bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondThere is nothing stamped below the serial #. The bell to bow connecting isn't well photographed, but it doesn't appear to be there either???? WTF?
1986golddelacquered with nickel plated keys (also matte finish)upright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-style
20310bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizonal diamondMade in GDR"made in" stamped on bell to bow connecting ring
20830bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
21840bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondCouldn't read it, but it looks like it is stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring
22500bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in DDR"made in" stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring
23732bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated-Selmer-styleMade in GDR
23762bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated-Selmer-styleMade in GDRThis horn was sold as NOS in 2016. Note the other tenor with the same serial # included in this list. It has different features, and appears to be an older model.
23760bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal diamondMade in GDR"made in" stamped on the bell to bow connecting ring.
24140blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in DDR"made in" stamped on bell to bow connecting ring
24200bluelacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularstraightnhorizontal diamond# on horn not shown, only on neck
2442bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhorizontal diamond
2499bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-style
25161bluelacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDRMight be 2 stars, but can only see 1. The other might be hidden in a black reflection on the bell.
2585bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
26642bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleAlso has a registered trade mark symbol R in a circle on the right side of the logo, just above the leaves & at the 2 o'clock spot of the star by the S of B&S.
2700bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-style G.D.R. & R.D.A (French)
27XX2bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
2796bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightnyelongated, Selmer-style
2808bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondNone
28770bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GermanyI can't be sure it said Germany since the pic was not that big. But the stamping looked too long to be GDR
28580bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In DDR"made in" stamped on bell to bow connecting ring.

Horn was paired with Selmer Mark VII neck.
3025bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularstraightyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
30442bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularstraightyelongated, Selmer-style
31550bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
3177bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDRThe serial # is a bit of a guess. The pic showing the # is shite. It could be 8177, or maybe ??? But based on the 2 upright F# keys I am guessing that it starts with a 3--since none of the 8XXX horns I have seen so far have anything other than a horizontal F# key
31980bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnMade in GDR
32130bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRThis sax has an original pick-up built into the neck. Seller mentions something about the neck being a Weltklang...
32460bluemostly delacaquered with nickle plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
3309blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
33710bluesilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDRThe shape of the chromatic F# would be an upright rectangular one if it was there--but it is missing. The tone hole is closed off with a plastic top from a Fuji Film roll container.
3451bluelacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraighty
3499bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropn/afixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in DDR
35790bluelacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
3616goldsilver platedupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyMade in GDROnly the right side of the bell to body brace is visible, and that side has had the blue enamel removed.
3661gold platedsilver plated with 1 gold plated keyupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleThis horn has some MOP key touches on R palm keys & also MOP inlaid on the key guards. It is engraved "Ahnenerbe" on the bell, and "Nenibredni" on the neck. Likely a custom horn.
36740bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondOnly # under octave lever visible.
38700blue on one side & gold on the otherclear lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
3809bluegold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable plasticstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
39120bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
39930bluesilver plateupright rectangularupright rectangularadustable plasticstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in GDR
3xxx0bluelacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Slemer style
4053bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
41472blue on one side & gold on the othergold lacquer with nickel keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadustable plasticstraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade in Germany
43880bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
44760bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
4483bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade in GDR
4571bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
46430n/asilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnMade in GDRThe bell to body support brace has been replaced with a non-B&S brace
46490n/asilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRThe bell to body support brace has been replaced with a non-B&S brace.

?? is this the same horn as 4643? Did I screw up the #??

The seller has included a clear shot of the serial #. It is without a doubt 4649. These pics also don't look familiar. I'm wondering if the new owner is selling it, since while the pics don't look familiar, the brace does.
4658bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondGDR
4730bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
47710bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GBRNo pic available. I think the seller meant GDR for "made in".
50950bluenickel platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
5491bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
55750bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
5747bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
61040bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
6125bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
61440bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRthis sax was crushed, but still recognizable
63260bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
63290bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
63750bluesilver platehorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
63900bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
6361bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
64550bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR2nd # look like a 4, but it the right vertical line is a bit hinky. Looks badly stamped maybe.
65200bluenickel platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In DDR
66170bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
6632bluesilver platehorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
66XX0bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
7059bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularstraightnnelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDR
71000bluebody clear lacquer with nickle plated keys. Neck gold lacquer.horizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
7216bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
7244bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade In GDR
72640bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
73110bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnMade In GDR
7320bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
73500n/asilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDRtypical bell to body brace was removed and a straight metal bar was added in its place
7435bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
7439bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
7675bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in DDRMight be GDR, but the image was rather blurry. However, when blown up in photoshop, the first 2 letters looked the same, so likely is "DD".
76590bluemostly delacaquered with nickle plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRblue label on one side, missing completely on the other. This tells us that these blue labels are just glued into place
76920bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
77850bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
77790bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRthe blue was scraped off the right side leaving a "gold" label. It was not a good job.
78060bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
78410bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRThis could be nickel plated
79210bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
8054bluesilver platehorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
80770bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
8166bluesilver platehorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
8188bluesilver platehorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondThis horn has been buffed to a matte finish
8199bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
83780bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
84100bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
8645bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
88320bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
88560bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
8920bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
9015bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
9110bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnhoriztonal diamond
91990bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
9368blueslver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
95270bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
96810bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnMade in GDR
97800bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
101880blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDR
102360goldsilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDRevidence that the blue enamel has been removed.
10325bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade In GDR
103350blue/goldsilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaondMade in GDRblue on right side; gold on left of bell to body brace logo.
103490bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
104660bluelacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhorizontal dimaond
10451bluegold lacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularstraightn
10475bluegold lacquer with nickel keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamondMade In GDR
?bluesilver platedhorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamond
?blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamond
?blueclear lacquer with nickel plated keyshorizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamond
?bluedelacquered with nickel plated keys (also matte finish)horizontal teardropupright rectangularfixed metalstraightnnhoriztonal diamond
?gold? Lacquer with nickel plated keysupright rectangularupright rectangularadjustable metalstraightyyelongated, Selmer-style

B&S Baritone Saxophones

B&S "blue label" bari saxes
BaritoneStars In EngravingLogo ColourFinishChromatic F# Key ShapeHigh F# Key ShapeThumb RestToneholesC# key Guard Y/NClothes Guard Y/NBell to Body Brace Fastening on BellMade In StampingNotes
14550blueSilver platedHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDR
10610blueSilver platedHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDR
14XX0none presentNickel plated ? Or Shiny Silver plateHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDRthe coloured badges have been removed, and only the brace remains. Clearly shows that the coloured label is just glued in.
14190blueLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDRStencil horn engraved Barby
1515blueLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightnyhorizontal diamondMade In GDRThis horn is a stencil, and engraved with the name Fleur--or so the owner says. Maybe LaFluer?
17XXblueLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyThis sax is engraved with the model name "Condor"
1854bluegold lacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleFabriqué en R.D.A. Made in GDR
19380bluesilver platedHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDR
22391blueSilver platedHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleCrap photo. Likely has 2 stars, but could only see the 1
22712blueSilver platedHorizontal Teardropadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In GDR
22XX2blueLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-style
23132blue & gold after rebuild a few months laterLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-style
2425blueLacquerHorizontal Teardropn/aPlastic Selmer adjustable to replace original.Straightyyelongated, Selmer-styleMade In Germany
24292blueLaquerHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable plasticStraightYYelongated, Selmer-styleMade In Germany
?0blueLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-style
?2blueLacquer with nickel plated keysHorizontal Teardropn/aadjustable metalStraightyyelongated, Selmer-style

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