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Hammerschmidt features & serials data table

Hammerschmidt features & serials data table

I have decided to put all the data from my Excel sheet into the following table to make it easier to keep it up to date in the future as I come across new examples. 

Warning, this is for serious Hammerschmidt geeks only! Studying this in detail will likely make your head explode. Trust me, I speak from personal experience. 😉 

Name on bell
Alto/Tenor
Serial #
Circa
Version
Finish
Neck style
Neck guard/upper octave key
Neck fastening screw
# of body octave vents
Octave key mechanism
Left thumb rest & octave lever
Tone holes
Engraving
Key guards
Clothes guard
Bow guard
Bell to bow connecting ring
Bow to body connecting ring
G# key
Left pinkie cluster
Roller colour
Full pearl
Front F
High F#
C/D trill
Fork Eb
G# trill
Special features
Notes
Josef Hammerschmidt & Söhne
A
032
1952-54
Nickel plated
Type 1
plain brace with old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
1
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Type 1 wire
n
Scalloped
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups.
This horn seems to have been made for one of the Hammerschmidt brothers. I have not found a Josef mentioned in the literature before though.
Klingson
T
052
1952-54
Silver plated
Type 1a
plain brace with ridge & old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
1
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Soldered & bevelled
Type 3 Klingson
Type 1 wire
n
Plain
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
N
N
N
N
N
N
Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups.
Klingson Christian Reisser
A
055
1952-54
Silver plated
Type 1
Plain brace with old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Type 1 Klingson
Type 1 wire
n
Scalloped
Plain
Plain
MOP
Black
Y
Y
N
N
Y
Y
Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups.
This horn was made for the music store Christian Reisser in Ulm
Klingsor
T
0100
1952-54
nickel plated
Type 1
plain brace & old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
wishbone
Soldered & bevelled
Type 3 Klingsor
Type 2 wire
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Black
n
n
n
n
n
Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups.
This tenor has extenders attached to the B & A keys.
Klingsor
T
0128
1952-54
Body is brushed silver & keys are polished silver
Type 1a
plain brace with ridge & old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
1
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 3 Klingsor
Type 2 Plexiglas
n
Scalloped
Double lined
double lined
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
The shape of the guards are the only ones I've ever seen like this
Klingsor
T
0153
1952-54
silver plated
Type 1a
plain brace with ridge & old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 3 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Large scalloped
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
n
n
n
n
Klingsor
T
0191
1952-54
B
silver plated with gold lacquer key work and bell
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
y
Finish is the first I've seen like this
Could this have been a custom order?
Silvertone
T
01xx
1952-54
B
Delacquered/satin finish
Type 1
plain brace with old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone with Klingsor blacksmith
Plexiglas
n
Large scalloped
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
0208
1952-54
B
Nickel plated
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
0238
1952-54
C
Silver plated
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain
Plain
RH: Black
N
n
n
n
n
Klingsor
A
0253
1952-54
B
nickel plated
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
2
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Silvertone
T
0281
1952-54
B
2 tone
Type 3
fin brace with more modern style octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Nail file MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
0319
1952-54
A
Silver plated
Type 2
Man in the moon with old-style ring octave lever
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Type 1 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
Nail file MOP
RH: Black? LH: White
Y
Y
N
Y
Y
Y
Melody Superior
A
03xx
1952-54
A
Lacquer
Type 4
fin brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
Nail file MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Silvertone
T
0413
1952-54
B
2 tone
Conventional - R pointing
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
White
n
y
n
n
y
Tiny pics. Couldn't see the neck. Might be a fin neck. Maybe not.
The Gracin Alto
A
0426
1952-54
B
Lacquer
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor with The Gracin name
Type 3 wire
N
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
At this point it is the earliest serial # I have seen 3 pips on
Silvertone
T
0471
1952-54
B
2 tone
Type 3
fin brace with more modern style octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
It might have MOP nailfile G#. Shitty pics all around.
Silvertone
A
0498
1952-54
B
2 tone
Type 3
fine brace with more modern
Conventional - R pointing
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
A
0500
1952-54
A
Silver plated
Type 4
fin with old-style ring
Conventional -R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
RH: black LH: white
y
y
n
y
y
y
No image of engraving shown. No name shown either.
Klingsor
T
0532
1952-54
A
silver plated
Type 5
fin brace with old-style ring with microtuner
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Ivory MOP?
Klingsor
T
0543
1952-54
B
nickel plated/gold plated bell
Type 4
fin brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
RH: black LH: white
n
y
n
n
n
y
JK-style low Eb key guard
Klingsor
T
0595
1952-54
B
silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
0607
1952-54
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 5
fin with old-style ring & microtuner
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
The Gracin Alto
A
0676
1952-54
B
Lacquer
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingson with The Gracin name in badge
Type 3 wire
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Looks mostly delacquered. Only 4 crappy pics shown, so not much to go on.
Artist Professional
A
0679
1952-54
B
Lacquer
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 3 wire
Plain
RH: White
n
y
n
n
y
Silvertone
A
0690
1952-54
B
2 tone
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
N
Y
N
N
N
Y
The neck fastening screw was missing.
Klingsor
T
06xx
1952-54
B
Nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
Genton
A
06xx
1952-54
B
Lacquer
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Laube Regal Kleertone
t
0790
1952-54
A
silver plated
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor with the Laube Regal Kleertone name
Sheet metel
ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
faded black rubber?
y
y
n
y
y
y
This is a new stencil name to me. From Australian eBay
Silvertone
A
0796
1952-54
B
2 tone
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
07xx
1952-54
B
Silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
Crappy small pics. Not many of them.
Klingsor
T
0964
1955-59
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain
Plain
MOP
RH: black LH: white
n
y
n
n
n
y
Someone colored in the stripes on the bell key Plexiglas guards with red like racing stripes
Eb key replaced with simple wire cage. Had been missing.
Klingsor
T
0981
1955-59
C
Nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
n
n
The round thumb screw was replaced with a wing top screw
Klingsor
T
01014
1955-59
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
One of the rollers on the L pinkie cluster is missing for the low Bb key
Klingsor
T
01049
1955-59
A
Silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Plexiglas
MOP
White
y
y
3 really crappy, small pics. Only noted to mark it as a serial # and full pearl model
Klingsor
T
01054
1955-59
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Museum quality. Simply stunning
Klingsor
A
01055
1955-59
C
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Drawn & rolled
too worn to see
Sheet metel
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
n
3 small images that pixalated like crazy. Only reason this was interesting was its lack of features and serial #
Klingsor
T
01111
1955-59
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
RH: black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Shitty small pics. Only interesting for serial #
Convair
T
01192
1955-59
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
011xx
1955-59
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain
Plain
MOP
RH: black LH: white
n
y
n
n
n
y
Only
Klingsor
T
01236
1955-59
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
Black
y
y
n
y
y
y
Klingsor
A
012xx
1955-59
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Jaye's listing on reverb from years ago.
Rockwell
T
01244
1955-59
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Crescent moon & raindrop
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
Crappy small pics. Few of them.
Klingsor
T
01300
1955-59
A
2 tone
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Hüttl De Luxe
A
013xx
1955-59
A
silver plated
Not shown
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
RH: black
y
y
n
y
n
y
Klingsor
A
01540
1955-59
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
01548
1955-59
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Wide Plain
Plain
Plain
MOP
RH: black LH: white
N
Y
N
N
N
Y
Velvetone
A
01615
1955-59
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
The pics of the engraving were too dark to see which kind of stencil engraving it had
Klingsor
A
01623
1955-59
B
nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Wide plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
016xx
1955-59
B
Silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
La Sete
A
01814
1955-59
A
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor with La Sete name
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Klingsor
A
01893
1955-59
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
Y
Y
Y
y
y
Y
Klingsor
A
01913
1955-59
B
silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 6 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
y
Right palm keys were horizontal. Like clarinet keys
Pic saved on Misc. Pics page of the workbook. Also, round thumb screw missing and was replaced by wing screw.
Klingsor
A
01919
1955-59
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Ornate clothes guard
This belonged to the sax player from the German band Graphic Sensibility
Klingsor
T
03391
1960-64
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
y
y
y
y
This is the Modell A I think
Klingsor
T
033xx
1960-64
B
Lacquer
JK recplacement
custom
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Look up the thread on SOTW
Lafleur DE LUXE
A
033xx
1960-64
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
03534
1960-64
A
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Klingsor
A
03538
1960-64
B
nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Is engraved: -Nr. 60- on bell to bow connecting ring
Looks like factory or other professional engraving. Part of a set ordered?
Klingsor
T
03555
1960-64
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Missing
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
y
y
y
y
This was my horn. It was the one that came with no neck.
Klingsor
A
03572
1960-64
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
Klingsor
T
03733
1960-64
B
nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Sheet metel
Plain
Plain
White
n
y
n
n
y
Crappy small pics. All of 2 of them.
Klingsor
T
03788
1960-64
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
This horn was in Japan. Had to use VPN to see it.
Klingsor
A
03890
1960-64
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
N
Y
N
N
N
Y
Klingsor
T
03934
1960-64
C
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
n
n
Really no features. Modell C
this belonged to that ass in TO who hung on to it despite knowing I needed a neck. He didn't play sax.
Klingsor
T
03987
1960-64
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
The clothes guard is ornate.
Klingsor
T
03997
1960-64
A
silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Sheet metel
Ornate
White
y
y
y
Stamped with BW-H10-Z-S on bell just above bow
Shitty few pics. Seller stated this horn was played in the Bundeswehr-Musikkorps
Klingsor
T
04001
1965-69
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
04003
1965-69
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
RH: black LH: white
y
y
y
y
y
y
Ornate clothes guard
Hüttl De Luxe
A
0405x
1965-69
A
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
This is my horn. This is what started all the Hammerschmidt research.
Hüttl
A
040xx
1965-69
C
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
n
n
It is the stripped down version of my De Luxe
This is one of the first I was sent pics of.
Klingsor
T
04345
1965-69
B
Nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Conventional
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Out of tune
This was my horn. It was out of tune. Could not be made to play in tune.
Klingsor
T
04379
1965-69
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
one of the first horns I was sent pics of. Not many. Not large.
Klingsor
A
0447X
1965-69
B
Lacquer
Replacement
N/A
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y - but missing
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Stamped Made In Germany on socket.
Klingsor
T
04546
1965-69
B
silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
04549
1965-69
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
Black
n
y
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
04600
1965-69
B
Nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4a Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
04629
1965-69
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
04729
1965-69
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 7 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
The bell engraving is the first I have seen like this
The pics are really small. I can't make out many deets. The name, font, and stencil ribbon space are unique though
A
04732
1965-69
B
Silver plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
RH: Black? LH: White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
04756
1965-69
B
Silver plate
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
RH: Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
047xx
1965-69
A
Silver plated
Type 5
fin brace with old-style ring with microtuner
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Plexiglas
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
RH: black LH: white
y
y
n
y
y
y
This was Dave Denton (?) horn. The first one that I was sent pics of. Uwe's client
Klingson
T
04892
1965-69
B
Silver plated with gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingson
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Plain
Plain
MOP
RH: black LH: white
n
y
n
n
n
y
The curtains don't match the drapes. See extra notes
Klingson
A
04913
1965-69
B
Nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingson
Sheet metel
y
Plain
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
N
Y
N
N
N
Y
Klingson
T
?
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingson
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
N
Y
N
N
Y
A
?
B
Lacquer
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 3 wire
n
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
White
n
y
n
n
y
Crappy pics. Not many. Engraving is too worn to see what name/style it is. It has a band similar to Type 4 Klingsor, but floral engraving seems different.
Klingsor
A
?
A
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Round thumb screw
2
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
y
n
y
No neck shown
Klingsor
A
?
B
Silver plated
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
Drawn & rolled
Replacements
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
The keygards were replaced at the last overhaul most likely
Klingsor
A
?
B
Silver plated
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
Conventional - L pointing
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
A
?
?
silver plated
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Ornate
Ornate
RH: Black
y
y
n
n
y
really crappy, small pics. This is one of the first I was sent pics of
Klingsor
A
?
C
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
n
This is about a stripped down as a horn as I have ever seen from the Co.
Klingsor
T
?
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
?
B
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Ornate
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
It has a pickup on the right side of the neck. Also the bow guard is ornate but the connecting rings are plain
Odd mix and match of features. Wonder if it is a replacement neck? That doesn't explain the rings though
Klingsor
T
?
C
Silver plated
Type 1a
plain brace with ridge & old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
1
wishbone
Drawn & rolled
Type 5 Klingsor
Type 2 wire
n
Large scalloped
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
n
n
n
n
n
Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups.
Klingsor
T
?
C
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
n
This is the Modell C I think.
Klingsor
T
?
B
nickel plated/gold plated bell
Type 1a
plain brace with ridge & old style ring
Conventional - R pointing
Soldered & bevelled
Type 3 Klingsor
Type 2 wire
Scalloped
Plain
Plain
Black
n
y
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
?
B
silver plated
Type 2
man in the moon brace with old-style ring
wishbone
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
RH: black
n
y
n
n
y
Klingsor
T
?
A
2 tone
Round thumb screw
2
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
no neck shown
Klingsor
T
?
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
The clothes guard does not look original
Klingsor
T
?
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
This one has a wishbone unlike the identical one in line 80
I wonder what the story was with the wishbone octave mechanism.
Klingsor
T
?
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Conventional
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
This one has no wishbone octave mechanism
I wonder how close to mine it was in serial #?
Klingsor
T
?
?
Nickel plated
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingsor
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
n
n
n
y
Round thumb screw missing. Replaced by wing shaped screw.
Admiral
T
?
?
Lacquer
Not shown
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 2 Klingson with Admiral name
Type 2 wire
Plain
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
White
n
n
n
n
n
y
DABICO
A
?
A
Lacquer
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
1
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
Nail file MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
DABICO
A
?
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
DABICO
A
?
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
This was being sold by the daughter of the store's owner.
DABICO
T
?
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
pearl off on the octave lever. Replaced by something black.
This was being sold by the former of the store.
A.K. Hüttl
A
?
A
Lacquer
Missing
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
Black
y
y
n
y
y
y
Wonder what the serial was?
Hüttl De Luxe
A
?
?
Silver plated/gold wash bell
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
n
y
Doesn't have the C/D triller, but is silver
More De Luxe than mine. Mine doesn't have the ornate features.
LE MEILLEUR DU MONDE
A
?
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor with Le Meillur Du Mond in stencil ribbon
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
It has 3 palm keys, but only 2 right palm keys. Not sure what is missing. Not seeing any open tone holes. Weird.
Lipson
A
?
B
Lacquer
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Plexiglas
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Silvertone
A
?
B
2 tone
Type 3
fin brace with more modern octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
Nail file MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
Silvertone
T
?
B
2 tone
Type 3
fin brace with more modern style octave key
Conventional - R pointing
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Typical Silvertone
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
The Gracin Alto
A
?
B
Lacquer
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
2
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor with The Gracin name
Sheet metel
n
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
The round thumb screw was missing
Velvetone
A
?
B
2 tone
Type 6
plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Type 4 Klingsor with the Velvetone name
Sheet metel
y
Plain with ridge
Plain
Plain
MOP
White
n
y
n
n
n
y
The round thumb screw is missing and someone took a regular neck fastening screw and put it in forward facing.
DABICO
T
A
Lacquer
Type 7
ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key
Round thumb screw
wishbone
Crescent moon & raindrop
Drawn & rolled
Sheet metel
n
Ornate
Ornate
Ornate
MOP
White
y
y
n
y
y
y
The round thumb screw is missing and there is nothing in its place
Klingson Christian Reisser
T
silver plated
Type 1a
plain brace with ridge & old style ring
Convention - r pointing
1
wishbone
Soldered & bevelled
Hand engraved with name only
Type 1 wire
Large scalloped
Plain
Plain
Cross hatch
Black
n
n
n
n
n
Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups.
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