I have decided to put all the data from my Excel sheet into the following table to make it easier to keep it up to date in the future as I come across new examples.
Warning, this is for serious Hammerschmidt geeks only! Studying this in detail will likely make your head explode. Trust me, I speak from personal experience. 😉
Name on bell | Alto/Tenor | Serial # | Circa | Version | Finish | Neck style | Neck guard/upper octave key | Neck fastening screw | # of body octave vents | Octave key mechanism | Left thumb rest & octave lever | Tone holes | Engraving | Key guards | Clothes guard | Bow guard | Bell to bow connecting ring | Bow to body connecting ring | G# key | Left pinkie cluster | Roller colour | Full pearl | Front F | High F# | C/D trill | Fork Eb | G# trill | Special features | Notes |
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Josef Hammerschmidt & Söhne | A | 032 | 1952-54 | Nickel plated | Type 1 | plain brace with old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 1 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Type 1 wire | n | Scalloped | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups. | This horn seems to have been made for one of the Hammerschmidt brothers. I have not found a Josef mentioned in the literature before though. |
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Klingson | T | 052 | 1952-54 | Silver plated | Type 1a | plain brace with ridge & old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 1 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Soldered & bevelled | Type 3 Klingson | Type 1 wire | n | Plain | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | N | N | N | N | N | N | Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups. | |||
Klingson Christian Reisser | A | 055 | 1952-54 | Silver plated | Type 1 | Plain brace with old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Type 1 Klingson | Type 1 wire | n | Scalloped | Plain | Plain | MOP | Black | Y | Y | N | N | Y | Y | Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups. | This horn was made for the music store Christian Reisser in Ulm |
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Klingsor | T | 0100 | 1952-54 | nickel plated | Type 1 | plain brace & old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | wishbone | Soldered & bevelled | Type 3 Klingsor | Type 2 wire | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Black | n | n | n | n | n | Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups. | This tenor has extenders attached to the B & A keys. |
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Klingsor | T | 0128 | 1952-54 | Body is brushed silver & keys are polished silver | Type 1a | plain brace with ridge & old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 1 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 3 Klingsor | Type 2 Plexiglas | n | Scalloped | Double lined | double lined | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | The shape of the guards are the only ones I've ever seen like this | |||
Klingsor | T | 0153 | 1952-54 | silver plated | Type 1a | plain brace with ridge & old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 3 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Large scalloped | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | n | n | n | n | |||||||
Klingsor | T | 0191 | 1952-54 | B | silver plated with gold lacquer key work and bell | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | y | Finish is the first I've seen like this | Could this have been a custom order? |
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Silvertone | T | 01xx | 1952-54 | B | Delacquered/satin finish | Type 1 | plain brace with old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone with Klingsor blacksmith | Plexiglas | n | Large scalloped | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||||
Klingsor | T | 0208 | 1952-54 | B | Nickel plated | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||
Klingsor | A | 0238 | 1952-54 | C | Silver plated | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain | Plain | RH: Black | N | n | n | n | n | ||||||||||
Klingsor | A | 0253 | 1952-54 | B | nickel plated | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Silvertone | T | 0281 | 1952-54 | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern style octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Nail file MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||
Klingsor | A | 0319 | 1952-54 | A | Silver plated | Type 2 | Man in the moon with old-style ring octave lever | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Type 1 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | Nail file MOP | RH: Black? LH: White | Y | Y | N | Y | Y | Y | ||||||
Melody Superior | A | 03xx | 1952-54 | A | Lacquer | Type 4 | fin brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | Nail file MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||||||
Silvertone | T | 0413 | 1952-54 | B | 2 tone | Conventional - R pointing | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | White | n | y | n | n | y | Tiny pics. Couldn't see the neck. Might be a fin neck. Maybe not. |
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The Gracin Alto | A | 0426 | 1952-54 | B | Lacquer | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor with The Gracin name | Type 3 wire | N | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | At this point it is the earliest serial # I have seen 3 pips on |
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Silvertone | T | 0471 | 1952-54 | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern style octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | It might have MOP nailfile G#. Shitty pics all around. | ||||
Silvertone | A | 0498 | 1952-54 | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fine brace with more modern | Conventional - R pointing | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||||||
A | 0500 | 1952-54 | A | Silver plated | Type 4 | fin with old-style ring | Conventional -R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | RH: black LH: white | y | y | n | y | y | y | No image of engraving shown. No name shown either. |
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Klingsor | T | 0532 | 1952-54 | A | silver plated | Type 5 | fin brace with old-style ring with microtuner | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | Ivory MOP? | ||
Klingsor | T | 0543 | 1952-54 | B | nickel plated/gold plated bell | Type 4 | fin brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | RH: black LH: white | n | y | n | n | n | y | JK-style low Eb key guard |
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Klingsor | T | 0595 | 1952-54 | B | silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||||
Klingsor | A | 0607 | 1952-54 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 5 | fin with old-style ring & microtuner | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||
The Gracin Alto | A | 0676 | 1952-54 | B | Lacquer | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingson with The Gracin name in badge | Type 3 wire | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | Looks mostly delacquered. Only 4 crappy pics shown, so not much to go on. |
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Artist Professional | A | 0679 | 1952-54 | B | Lacquer | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 3 wire | Plain | RH: White | n | y | n | n | y | |||||||||
Silvertone | A | 0690 | 1952-54 | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | N | Y | N | N | N | Y | The neck fastening screw was missing. |
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Klingsor | T | 06xx | 1952-54 | B | Nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | ||||||
Genton | A | 06xx | 1952-54 | B | Lacquer | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||||
Laube Regal Kleertone | t | 0790 | 1952-54 | A | silver plated | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor with the Laube Regal Kleertone name | Sheet metel | ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | faded black rubber? | y | y | n | y | y | y | This is a new stencil name to me. From Australian eBay |
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Silvertone | A | 0796 | 1952-54 | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||
Klingsor | T | 07xx | 1952-54 | B | Silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | Crappy small pics. Not many of them. |
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Klingsor | T | 0964 | 1955-59 | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain | Plain | MOP | RH: black LH: white | n | y | n | n | n | y | Someone colored in the stripes on the bell key Plexiglas guards with red like racing stripes | Eb key replaced with simple wire cage. Had been missing. |
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Klingsor | T | 0981 | 1955-59 | C | Nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | n | n | The round thumb screw was replaced with a wing top screw |
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Klingsor | T | 01014 | 1955-59 | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | One of the rollers on the L pinkie cluster is missing for the low Bb key |
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Klingsor | T | 01049 | 1955-59 | A | Silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Plexiglas | MOP | White | y | y | 3 really crappy, small pics. Only noted to mark it as a serial # and full pearl model |
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Klingsor | T | 01054 | 1955-59 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | Museum quality. Simply stunning |
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Klingsor | A | 01055 | 1955-59 | C | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Drawn & rolled | too worn to see | Sheet metel | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | n | 3 small images that pixalated like crazy. Only reason this was interesting was its lack of features and serial # |
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Klingsor | T | 01111 | 1955-59 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | RH: black | n | y | n | n | n | y | Shitty small pics. Only interesting for serial # |
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Convair | T | 01192 | 1955-59 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Klingsor | T | 011xx | 1955-59 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain | Plain | MOP | RH: black LH: white | n | y | n | n | n | y | Only
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Klingsor | T | 01236 | 1955-59 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | Black | y | y | n | y | y | y | ||||
Klingsor | A | 012xx | 1955-59 | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | Jaye's listing on reverb from years ago. |
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Rockwell | T | 01244 | 1955-59 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Crescent moon & raindrop | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | Crappy small pics. Few of them. |
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Klingsor | T | 01300 | 1955-59 | A | 2 tone | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||
Hüttl De Luxe | A | 013xx | 1955-59 | A | silver plated | Not shown | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | RH: black | y | y | n | y | n | y | |||||
Klingsor | A | 01540 | 1955-59 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | |||||||
Klingsor | A | 01548 | 1955-59 | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Wide Plain | Plain | Plain | MOP | RH: black LH: white | N | Y | N | N | N | Y | |||||
Velvetone | A | 01615 | 1955-59 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | The pics of the engraving were too dark to see which kind of stencil engraving it had |
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Klingsor | A | 01623 | 1955-59 | B | nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Wide plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||
Klingsor | A | 016xx | 1955-59 | B | Silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
La Sete | A | 01814 | 1955-59 | A | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor with La Sete name | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||
Klingsor | A | 01893 | 1955-59 | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | Y | Y | Y | y | y | Y | |||
Klingsor | A | 01913 | 1955-59 | B | silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 6 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | y | Right palm keys were horizontal. Like clarinet keys | Pic saved on Misc. Pics page of the workbook. Also, round thumb screw missing and was replaced by wing screw. |
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Klingsor | A | 01919 | 1955-59 | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | Ornate clothes guard | This belonged to the sax player from the German band Graphic Sensibility |
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Klingsor | T | 03391 | 1960-64 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | y | y | y | y | This is the Modell A I think |
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Klingsor | T | 033xx | 1960-64 | B | Lacquer | JK recplacement | custom | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | Look up the thread on SOTW |
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Lafleur DE LUXE | A | 033xx | 1960-64 | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Klingsor | T | 03534 | 1960-64 | A | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||||
Klingsor | A | 03538 | 1960-64 | B | nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | Is engraved: -Nr. 60- on bell to bow connecting ring | Looks like factory or other professional engraving. Part of a set ordered? |
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Klingsor | T | 03555 | 1960-64 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Missing | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | y | y | y | y | This was my horn. It was the one that came with no neck. |
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Klingsor | A | 03572 | 1960-64 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||
Klingsor | T | 03733 | 1960-64 | B | nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Sheet metel | Plain | Plain | White | n | y | n | n | y | Crappy small pics. All of 2 of them. |
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Klingsor | T | 03788 | 1960-64 | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | This horn was in Japan. Had to use VPN to see it. |
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Klingsor | A | 03890 | 1960-64 | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | N | Y | N | N | N | Y | |||
Klingsor | T | 03934 | 1960-64 | C | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | n | n | Really no features. Modell C | this belonged to that ass in TO who hung on to it despite knowing I needed a neck. He didn't play sax. |
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Klingsor | T | 03987 | 1960-64 | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | The clothes guard is ornate. | |||
Klingsor | T | 03997 | 1960-64 | A | silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Sheet metel | Ornate | White | y | y | y | Stamped with BW-H10-Z-S on bell just above bow | Shitty few pics. Seller stated this horn was played in the Bundeswehr-Musikkorps |
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Klingsor | T | 04001 | 1965-69 | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | ||||||
Klingsor | T | 04003 | 1965-69 | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | RH: black LH: white | y | y | y | y | y | y | Ornate clothes guard | ||||
Hüttl De Luxe | A | 0405x | 1965-69 | A | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | This is my horn. This is what started all the Hammerschmidt research. |
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Hüttl | A | 040xx | 1965-69 | C | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | n | n | It is the stripped down version of my De Luxe | This is one of the first I was sent pics of. |
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Klingsor | T | 04345 | 1965-69 | B | Nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Conventional | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | Out of tune | This was my horn. It was out of tune. Could not be made to play in tune. |
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Klingsor | T | 04379 | 1965-69 | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | one of the first horns I was sent pics of. Not many. Not large. |
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Klingsor | A | 0447X | 1965-69 | B | Lacquer | Replacement | N/A | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y - but missing | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | Stamped Made In Germany on socket. |
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Klingsor | T | 04546 | 1965-69 | B | silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | y | |||||
Klingsor | T | 04549 | 1965-69 | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | Black | n | y | n | n | y | ||||||
Klingsor | T | 04600 | 1965-69 | B | Nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4a Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Klingsor | A | 04629 | 1965-69 | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Klingsor | A | 04729 | 1965-69 | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 7 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | The bell engraving is the first I have seen like this | The pics are really small. I can't make out many deets. The name, font, and stencil ribbon space are unique though |
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A | 04732 | 1965-69 | B | Silver plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | RH: Black? LH: White | n | y | n | n | n | y | |||||||
Klingsor | A | 04756 | 1965-69 | B | Silver plate | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | RH: Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Klingsor | T | 047xx | 1965-69 | A | Silver plated | Type 5 | fin brace with old-style ring with microtuner | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Plexiglas | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | RH: black LH: white | y | y | n | y | y | y | This was Dave Denton (?) horn. The first one that I was sent pics of. Uwe's client |
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Klingson | T | 04892 | 1965-69 | B | Silver plated with gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingson | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Plain | Plain | MOP | RH: black LH: white | n | y | n | n | n | y | The curtains don't match the drapes. See extra notes |
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Klingson | A | 04913 | 1965-69 | B | Nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingson | Sheet metel | y | Plain | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | N | Y | N | N | N | Y | |||
Klingson | T | ? | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingson | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | N | Y | N | N | Y | ||||||||
A | ? | B | Lacquer | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 3 wire | n | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | White | n | y | n | n | y | Crappy pics. Not many. Engraving is too worn to see what name/style it is. It has a band similar to Type 4 Klingsor, but floral engraving seems different. |
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Klingsor | A | ? | A | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Round thumb screw | 2 | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | y | n | y | No neck shown |
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Klingsor | A | ? | B | Silver plated | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | Drawn & rolled | Replacements | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | The keygards were replaced at the last overhaul most likely |
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Klingsor | A | ? | B | Silver plated | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | Conventional - L pointing | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||||
Klingsor | A | ? | ? | silver plated | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Ornate | Ornate | RH: Black | y | y | n | n | y | really crappy, small pics. This is one of the first I was sent pics of |
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Klingsor | A | ? | C | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | n | This is about a stripped down as a horn as I have ever seen from the Co. |
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Klingsor | T | ? | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Klingsor | T | ? | B | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Ornate | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | It has a pickup on the right side of the neck. Also the bow guard is ornate but the connecting rings are plain | Odd mix and match of features. Wonder if it is a replacement neck? That doesn't explain the rings though |
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Klingsor | T | ? | C | Silver plated | Type 1a | plain brace with ridge & old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | 1 | wishbone | Drawn & rolled | Type 5 Klingsor | Type 2 wire | n | Large scalloped | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | n | n | n | n | n | Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups. | ||||
Klingsor | T | ? | C | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | n | This is the Modell C I think. |
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Klingsor | T | ? | B | nickel plated/gold plated bell | Type 1a | plain brace with ridge & old style ring | Conventional - R pointing | Soldered & bevelled | Type 3 Klingsor | Type 2 wire | Scalloped | Plain | Plain | Black | n | y | n | n | y | ||||||||||
Klingsor | T | ? | B | silver plated | Type 2 | man in the moon brace with old-style ring | wishbone | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | RH: black | n | y | n | n | y | |||||||||||
Klingsor | T | ? | A | 2 tone | Round thumb screw | 2 | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | no neck shown |
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Klingsor | T | ? | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | The clothes guard does not look original |
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Klingsor | T | ? | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | This one has a wishbone unlike the identical one in line 80 | I wonder what the story was with the wishbone octave mechanism. |
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Klingsor | T | ? | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Conventional | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | This one has no wishbone octave mechanism | I wonder how close to mine it was in serial #? |
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Klingsor | T | ? | ? | Nickel plated | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingsor | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | n | n | n | y | Round thumb screw missing. Replaced by wing shaped screw. |
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Admiral | T | ? | ? | Lacquer | Not shown | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 2 Klingson with Admiral name | Type 2 wire | Plain | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | White | n | n | n | n | n | y | ||||||||
DABICO | A | ? | A | Lacquer | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 1 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | Nail file MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||||
DABICO | A | ? | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | |||||
DABICO | A | ? | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | This was being sold by the daughter of the store's owner. |
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DABICO | T | ? | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | pearl off on the octave lever. Replaced by something black. | This was being sold by the former of the store. |
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A.K. Hüttl | A | ? | A | Lacquer | Missing | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | Black | y | y | n | y | y | y | Wonder what the serial was? |
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Hüttl De Luxe | A | ? | ? | Silver plated/gold wash bell | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | n | y | Doesn't have the C/D triller, but is silver | More De Luxe than mine. Mine doesn't have the ornate features. |
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LE MEILLEUR DU MONDE | A | ? | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor with Le Meillur Du Mond in stencil ribbon | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | It has 3 palm keys, but only 2 right palm keys. Not sure what is missing. Not seeing any open tone holes. Weird. |
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Lipson | A | ? | B | Lacquer | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Plexiglas | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||||
Silvertone | A | ? | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | Nail file MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
Silvertone | T | ? | B | 2 tone | Type 3 | fin brace with more modern style octave key | Conventional - R pointing | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Typical Silvertone | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | ||||
The Gracin Alto | A | ? | B | Lacquer | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | 2 | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor with The Gracin name | Sheet metel | n | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | The round thumb screw was missing |
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Velvetone | A | ? | B | 2 tone | Type 6 | plain brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Type 4 Klingsor with the Velvetone name | Sheet metel | y | Plain with ridge | Plain | Plain | MOP | White | n | y | n | n | n | y | The round thumb screw is missing and someone took a regular neck fastening screw and put it in forward facing. |
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DABICO | T | A | Lacquer | Type 7 | ornate brace with ridge & more modern octave key | Round thumb screw | wishbone | Crescent moon & raindrop | Drawn & rolled | Sheet metel | n | Ornate | Ornate | Ornate | MOP | White | y | y | n | y | y | y | The round thumb screw is missing and there is nothing in its place |
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Klingson Christian Reisser | T | silver plated | Type 1a | plain brace with ridge & old style ring | Convention - r pointing | 1 | wishbone | Soldered & bevelled | Hand engraved with name only | Type 1 wire | Large scalloped | Plain | Plain | Cross hatch | Black | n | n | n | n | n | Flat key cups. Arms attached on sides of cups. | yes I saved this for uploading 🙂 |
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